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Mar 31, 2016
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Some fans scoffed at the $270 price tag for Square Enix’s Ultimate Collector’s Edition for Final Fantasy XV while others frantically refreshed the Online Store page. Within 30 minutes (20 for ps4 users!) all that remained was a depressing, grayed-out waiting list bar that might as well flash “Sold Out!” in bright neon colors.
10 years of waiting and the exclusive version has slipped from your grasp…

You may be like many who are holding on to the Playstation VR Prayer that more units will be stocked. I feel you…

However there is one item within the Ultimate Collector's Edition that throws those wishes out the window: the Noctis Play Arts Figure. With side characters like Prompto and Gladiolus retailing around 130-140 USD on the Square Enix store, you can only imagine how much this limited edition main character figure will sell outside of the bundle. Figures aren’t like video games. FFXV will sell around 59 USD for months with many copies to come but for limited figures the value can practically depreciate instantly just by production numbers. Making them actually limited increases the “rareness” and price immediately. How often have you heard Play Arts re-releasing a Limited Edition figure? I doubt it will happen just because it's in a FFXV bundle.

Reporters and fans are complaining about the “vicious scalpers” who are reselling their precious product on Ebay. The sad fact is the chances of the limited edition being restocked over it’s marketed 30,000 are very slim.
And with a single figure in the bundle costing at the very least half of the 270 price tag I might rethink the “outrageous prices”. Many are currently bidding around 450 USD as of March 31st on Ebay.
I definitely don’t expect the cost to lower any time soon.
Meaning, if you manage to snag the Final Fantasy XV under double its retail value (around 540 USD), i think you are probably getting a steal.

Any thoughts?
 
Jun 7, 2014
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I think Square should release another ("non-ultimate") Collector's Edition which wuold have everything except the Play Arts figure. It's the one item that inflates the price to the point of being unaffordable for many fans (and one that I personally don't care about).
And I don't see a point in getting a resale for some ridiculous price unless you're really desperate for that Noctis figure.
 

Rin

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Before I continue my post, I should disclose that I had been successful in pre-ordering an Ultimate Collector's Edition, so this may come across as disingenuous. With that said:

Honestly, the contents of the Collector's Edition still don't justify the $270 US price tag. They're cool but not uber exciting. Reviewing the contents:
Game: $60
Kingsglaive: Available online to watch
Brotherhood: Available online to watch for free
Noctis PAK (Collector's Edition): ~$130. The store says it's "exclusive," not "limited edition." I wasn't aware that this PAK would be packaged only with Collector's Editions and never sold again... there was a price tag for it at the Shrine Auditorium, I think $130. My guess is that this PAK will be made available first to owners of the Collector's Edition; at a later time, it (or a different version of Noctis) will be sold to the general public.
Special Soundtrack: contains only select tracks from the official OST (estimated $50 when it's released), Kingsglaive, and Brotherhood; Shimomura's not even in charge of Brotherhood's music, and she's doing only the main theme of Kingsglaive (please note, I'm not saying that the music in Brotherhood and Kingsglaive is bad or inferior). In other words, this soundtrack's just a sample and not a full-fledged OST for any of the three works. $15-20, maybe, if it were sold separately in the US (in Japan it'd be much higher).
Art book: At retail this could easily go for $40. Granted, Square Enix may never sell this separately from the Collector's Edition. Note that the term "exclusive" is not used for this item.
Fancy packaging and DLC: not sure how much it cost SE for the packaging, but I'd reckon not very much. DLC's aesthetically pleasing but not really necessary.
Total: Around $245-250

That's still ~$20 overpriced (if nostalgia, the "waited-for-10-years" high, or the "prestige" of owning a limited collector's edition had a price mark, maybe this would be it).
Two cases are possible: 1) there are only 30,000 units available to the general public worldwide, and remaining stock are reserved for VIPs and others who are associated with Square Enix or the game; 2) there really only are 30,000 units worldwide, but not all 30,000 of them are available to the general public. Some are still reserved for VIPs and whatnot.

My point is, Square Enix's price for the Collector's Edition was overpriced to begin with, so the prices that scalpers are charging are even more ridiculous and shouldn't be honored. With the possible exceptions of the PAK and the Art book, everything else can be obtained or experienced through other methods. The whole "exclusivity" remark is what's driving the prices upward. It's still early, so some may choose to cancel.

Then again, I pre-ordered it just to get my hands on that art book... so we're back to square one.
 
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I feel like scalping like this should be illegal.
I think it was Ticketmaster that recently went after scalpers. Somehow they found a way to take down listings by people who bought tickets for a now sold out show then made them available to the public at the regular cost. I'm not sure that it's logistically possible for Square to do that, but there is some recent precedent. (I imagine however that many of the CEs are being sold via sites like eBay, which probably have privacy policies in place to prevent a company like Square going in and doing this -- Square would need to collect user information in order to invalidate the order.)

That said, while I agree that scalping sucks, Square (and any company that does such a limited run knowing it will sell out in minutes) is in a way forcing it to happen. I'm not sure what the motive is given that it's a private party profiting and not the company themselves, but given the hefty price tag of the CE I highly doubt Square is selling these at a loss. Why do such a limited run then? Why not continue to take orders and produce enough for everyone? I can only see production being an issue for the figurine, admittedly I don't know enough about Play Arts to say whether or not they are a limiting factor in this. I'm all for collector's and special editions of things, for fans that are willing to spend more and for companies that offer worthwhile stuff in them, but in a situation like this I don't understand why they produce so few (besides building hype I suppose but I hate that as a reason).