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DrBretto

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I wonder why they chosed to make Blizzard an enviroment changer spell ? It´s cool and I like but something in my head tells me that having the generic ice block instead would be less taxing for the hardware.
I watched the video again just now, and it looks functional. Like, all the enemies scattered after blizzard hit, which kind of makes sense if a sudden blizzard just happened. That's actually an interesting mechanic if that's intentional.
 
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All of that new footage was great. The environments look so detailed and awesome. I loved the diner and the inside of Hammerhead. I must say that the physics for the hair and cloth are the best I have seen in a game. when Noctis was battling after that blizzard spell i couldn't stop staring at his clothing because it mesmerized me. That blizzard spell was so beautiful. I am so glad the magic is so dynamic and interesting. It allow for a lot of strategic game play and fun battles. Also that interview with Yoko Shimomura was wonderful. She really is such a talented lady. She is so adorable too haha.
 

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I wonder why they chosed to make Blizzard an enviroment changer spell ? It´s cool and I like but something in my head tells me that having the generic ice block instead would be less taxing for the hardware.
Did you see the January ATR? It was actually pretty informative!
At 13min 59sec, They start discussing magic, the gist though, if you don't want to go through that part of the video, is that there are two kinds of magic in the game, and with the elemental side, only the base elemental magic is in the game: Fire, Blizzard, Thunder, and maybe Demi (Earth)?? (not sure about the last one).

Anyway, since there are so few, each now actually significantly effects the environment and whatever creatures happen to be in the area effect space of the given spell. (For example, Fire will char a nearby building, burn grass, or ignite the spilled oil from a damaged mech. Ice will effect biorythms, etc). I think its a pretty cool concept and plays into the whole "fantasy based on reality" angle.
 
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I ran across something very strange yesterday as I was watching the Deus Ex Panel twitch stream, the audio went really screwey twice, at first it was short then later, it happened again and there was a major case of the streams being crossed. The first cut-in is from the Uncovered event, the second is from the SE Setsuna stream, but what's wierd is that the third is what sounds like brand new trailer music...so I went to GAF couldn't find anyone talking about it, then went to GameFAQ's ugh! and someone who claims to be a composer posted this- make of it what you will, but I agree, this music is NOT from any released Heavensward trailer and there was no trailer at the panel today...So unless there is still a yet to be released Heavensward trailer today

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/73629132

It's hard to really explain since I'm a songwriter/composer myself, but listen to 0:38, then watch the Reclaim Your Throne trailer and listen to the clip I posted. You'll notice a specific part where the trailer shifts in and that's where the choir enters. There's a deliberate key change there that I haven't heard in orchestrae songs like this, only a Japanese composer would do, but it sounds exactly like the transition to the song from Reclaim Your Throne trailer.

Could be FFXlV if FFXlV is tomorrow or sometime this weekend at PAX. Has it been shown already? Check that up for me. That'll end this. Though people are saying this song was playing before they started talking about FFXV randomly.

Here was the first thread:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/73629132

at 19:15 it begins,

this is a stream of PAX EAST WITH KINDA FUNNY, NOTHING TO DO WITH FFXV, but during this stream, the audio broke and crossed into Dan (Seto) from square enix marketing speaking and it sounded like audio from the uncovered event. such a weird thing.

and then as it was broken there was crystal breaking or swords clashing (sounding like battle) and that track going on, ive never heard it at all, but it sounds epic, and different, a slow paced trackin the style of omnis lacrima from earlier reveals

thoughts?
This is the extracted twitch audio, in the actual stream it lasted about 10min and got more and more garbled as it went on looping in many other sources? untill complete cacophony set in, then it suddenely fixed itself


Original Twitch stream:
https://www.twitch.tv/pax2/v/62152124 The first in-cut is at 7min 48sec and is the beginning of the Twitch pre-show Uncovered audio and lasts until 12min 1sec, and then big one is from the Setsuna stream yesterday starting at around 17min 10sec, the music track from a third (unknown) source fades in at 18min 51sec and that sample loops continuously until the proper audio is suddenly restored at 27min 5sec.

Maybe this is from the upcoming E3 trailer?
 
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I ran across something very strange yesterday as I was watching the Deus Ex Panel twitch stream, the audio went really screwey twice, at first it was short then later, it happened again and there was a major case of the streams being crossed. The first cut-in is from the Uncovered event, the second is from the SE Setsuna stream, but what's wierd is that the third is what sounds like brand new trailer music...so I went to GAF couldn't find anyone talking about it, then went to GameFAQ's ugh! and someone who claims to be a composer posted this- make of it what you will, but I agree, this music is NOT from any released Heavensward trailer and there was no trailer at the panel today...So unless there is still a yet to be released Heavensward trailer today

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/73629132




Here was the first thread:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/73629132



This is the extracted twitch audio, in the actual stream it lasted about 10min and got more and more garbled as it went on looping in many other sources? untill complete cacophony set in, then it suddenely fixed itself


Original Twitch stream:
https://www.twitch.tv/pax2/v/62152124 The first in-cut is at 7min 48sec and is the beginning of the Twitch pre-show Uncovered audio and lasts until 12min 1sec, and then big one is from the Setsuna stream yesterday starting at around 17min 10sec, the music track from a third (unknown) source fades in at 18min 51sec and that sample loops continuously until the proper audio is suddenly restored at 27min 5sec.

Maybe this is from the upcoming E3 trailer?
That is interesting. In that video logos from past FF games are being flashed across the screen. I wonder what that is about?.
 

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I ran across something very strange yesterday as I was watching the Deus Ex Panel...

Original Twitch stream:
https://www.twitch.tv/pax2/v/62152124 The first in-cut is at 7min 48sec and is the beginning of the Twitch pre-show Uncovered audio and lasts until 12min 1sec, and then big one is from the Setsuna stream yesterday starting at around 17min 10sec, the music track from a third (unknown) source fades in at 18min 51sec and that sample loops continuously until the proper audio is suddenly restored at 27min 5sec.

Maybe this is from the upcoming E3 trailer?
Ok, bear with me here. I'm gonna give everybody a music history lesson, as I think it will be illuminating
(ha ha I just can't stop with these luminous jokes, sorry)
to this situation. I have been listening to this clip and comparing it to several other tracks for a while now, and there is something else very interesting about it. To really understand this, I need to give a little background first.

Different musical keys are often linked to different emotions. For example: C-minor is associated often with lost love and heroic struggle, E-flat major is most associated with triumph and often the divine, G-minor is associated most strongly with tragedy and sadness, and F-minor is associated with (often irrational) passion. Also, these 4 keys just happen to be all closely related musically as well! So, why pick these specific ones?

Somnus, Omnis Lacrima, "Dawn" and the E3 2013 music all begin in the key of C-minor. This I think is not a random choice, as classical composers all the way back to Beethoven (and before) used it when they wanted to evoke toil and struggle (especially of war). The first few notes (known as the fate motif) of the begining of his 5th symphony *duh duh duh duhhhhnnnn, duh duh duh duhhhhnnnn* is in this key. Since Shimomura was classically trained, I'd be quite surprised if she wasn't thinking of this association when she started composing for Versus.

It follows interestingly then, that with the reveal at the end of the E3 trailer--the godlike triumphant shattering and renaming of Versus to VX--occurs as the music resolves to a final triumphant E-flat major chord. In contrast, "Dawn" ends on a (not-quite) D-sharp minor chord (the parallel minor of E-flat major). This is a key associated with deep dispair, distress, black depression, and gloom of the soul..make of that what you will, ha ha!

"Gratia Mundi", Veiled in Black, and the middle section of the Reclaim your Throne trailer theme are all G-minor (tragedy), although the beginning of RYT is in F-minor (Passion). Oh, incidentally Omnis Lacrima ends in F-sharp minor, which is about as distant as can be tonally from any of the 4 keys I mentioned, yet it can sound similar to G-minor, since it lies only a semi-tone below.

Ok, lets go deeper, and here is where things start getting interesting and odd: (Posted below) is another clip from sometime ago, and discovered I think, by this board. I can't remember for sure, and it seems to be gone now, but I kept it. This is also in the key of G-minor, although the music style itself is quite different, it still seems to have some elements of Shimomura's other tracks. It is whollly unknown whether this clip is from the game or not at this time. Edit: sorry Mognet won't let me post mp3's :(

However, this finally leads to this current enigma from the recent Twitch stream. It too is in...wait for it, you guessed it, G-minor! Further, the music swells with the chord sequences, and the introduction of the choir sounds a lot like what happens in the RYT trailer!!

After all this analysis, I feel there is a strong possiblility that somehow this is genuine, and I can't help but feel we may have really inadvertently stumbled upon the next FFXV track! As a final..note, isn't it interesting how the keys of the music reflects the mood and vibes we are seeing in the game--which tracks right along with what Ms. Shimomura said in her recent GI interview:)
 
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RetroPS4

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Honestly, it doesn't sound like XV to me at all, I could easily be wrong though.
To me, that's the thing though, If you take Somnus, OL, E3 2013,"Gratia Mundi" VIB, Dawn, and RYT, they all sound pretty wildly different to one another and yet there is a similar somberness and majesty with a lot of boldness and dramatic feeling thrown in. FWIW, when I first saw the Dawn trailer it didn't feel like XV at all to me either!
And I don't just mean the music, har har.
But, when you compare it with the newer RYT and all the other tracks it fits right in...and this new snippet- I feel seems to have similar qualities... ¯\(ツ)/¯
 
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TL;DR About the supposed "new music": it's most likely not from FFXV.

I listened to it in the YouTube video several times yesterday. Today, on my tablet I clicked on the link to the Twitch stream to check what it sounds like, and a commercial about a Twitch eSports contest or something started to play. Once that was done, I fast forwarded to the time in question and realized that the music sounded awfully familiar. I used my phone to check, and as I had suspected, the music is used in the Twitch commercial that precedes the stream.

I'm inclined to say that this music is not from FFXV, but I won't say it 100% isn't. There's still a very small chance that Twitch decided to use FFXV music for a commercial, but it is highly improbable. lol
 
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To me, that's the thing though, If you take Somnus, OL, E3 2013,"Gratia Mundi" VIB, Dawn, and RYT, they all sound pretty wildly different to one another and yet there is a similar somberness and majesty with a lot of boldness and dramatic feeling thrown in. FWIW, when I first saw the Dawn trailer it didn't feel like XV at all to me either!
And I don't just mean the music, har har.
But, when you compare it with the newer RYT and all the other tracks it fits right in...and this new snippet- I feel seems to have similar qualities... ¯\(ツ)/¯
The Dawn trailer actually did feel like Final Fantasy to me surprisingly enough.
 
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TL;DR About the supposed "new music": it's most likely not from FFXV.

I listened to it in the YouTube video several times yesterday. Today, on my tablet I clicked on the link to the Twitch stream to check what it sounds like, and a commercial about a Twitch eSports contest or something started to play. Once that was done, I fast forwarded to the time in question and realized that the music sounded awfully familiar. I used my phone to check, and as I had suspected, the music is used in the Twitch commercial that precedes the stream.

I'm inclined to say that this music is not from FFXV, but I won't say it 100% isn't. There's still a very small chance that Twitch decided to use FFXV music for a commercial, but it is highly improbable. lol
Rin, if you could link that, Id appreciate it. I have gone through the stream on my phone multiple times, i'm not finding the commercial your speaking of anywhere.....

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My argument and analysis of the (confirmed XV) music still stands however:) and the tl;dr version is that the key identity of each piece is absolutely intentional and links in with the themes of the FFXV story.
 
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Rin

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@Rin , could you tell us what this update from April 22 was about ?
http://mypage.member.jp.square-enix.com/18/blog/detail/322250/
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