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SilverGlyph

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What does online play imply? Social networking? Multiplayer? Leaderboards? Can't say it's something I was ever excited about, but I'm intrigued.

I hope the Ignis DLC involves cooking competition minigames haha.
 

LeonBlade

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They even said it's "is not content that has been cut from the main game just to sell to you later."
Whether you folks want to believe it or not, that's up to you. I advise y'all just stay adamant for now.

http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/icymi-final-fantasy-xv-getting-season-pass
Considering it's solo content for each of the players and an entire expansion of an online mode, yeah, I believe it.

What does online play imply? Social networking? Multiplayer? Leaderboards? Can't say it's something I was ever excited about, but I'm intrigued.

I hope the Ignis DLC involves cooking competition minigames haha.
They said it's a whole new way to play the game, so you probably will be able to play with other people I'd imagine.
 

SonOfEtro

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Update on the music. From a post on FFDream, Florence + The Machine have created two original songs for the game alongside their cover of Stand by Me: they're called Too Much Is Never Enough and I Will Be, and are apparently inspired by the world and story of XV. So basically... THESE SONGS ARE AURAL SPOILERS! I've listened to samples, and they're alright. Too Much Is Never Enough is just.... godly.
 
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Somber

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Update on the music. From a post on FFDream, Florence + The Machine have created two original songs for the game alongside their cover of Stand by Me: they're called Too Much Is Never Enough and I Will Be, and are apparently inspired by the world and story of XV. So basically... THESE SONGS ARE AURAL SPOILERS! I've listened to samples, and they're alright. Too Much Is Never Enough is just.... godly.
I agree with you. Too Much Is Never Enough is so awesome! And also I feel like "I Will Be" may play in reunion scenes. :rolleyes:
 
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Tornak

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Mmmh, the DLC thing is definitvely interesting. Full control? I guess it's much easier implementing it in a tighter, smaller experience than in the base game, so it makes sense. I hope there's a bundle with the three guys' DLCs, because, if they end up being good, I'll probably buy them all.

The online quote is even more intriguing. Wonder what that could be. Really, I can't think of what they could do with that. Co-op/versus? It'd be very weird in a game like this (and probably quite difficult to implement) but who knows (not counting on this one, though). It's probably going to be something tamer (Chocobo and Aircar races!!!!:chocowalk::airship:), but nonetheless this is veeery interesting.

PS: I'm actually not really into the vocal songs the series has had (they're cool for the most part, but they never stood up to me as much as Nobuo's music). But "Too Much is Never Enough" is really beautiful, and so are the other two.
 
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Ragnarok

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I really like all three of those Florence + The Machine tracks, and I think "I Will Be" might play at the end of the game. It sounds like that kind of song to me, and if I hear it correctly she is singing something about sunrise... So yeah, dawn... :)
 
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DrBretto

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They even said it's "is not content that has been cut from the main game just to sell to you later."
Whether you folks want to believe it or not, that's up to you. I advise y'all just stay adamant for now.

http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/icymi-final-fantasy-xv-getting-season-pass
There's no 'believing or not'. You would have to be genuinely stupid to not believe them. And it's not because SE would never lie to us. It's because it'd be obvious.

You play the entire game as Noctis. At no point do you ever control the other characters. Never. Adding self contained scenarios where you control the other characters is clearly not part of the main game it's unmistakably separate. Just like The Last of Us DLC. There's absolutely no mistaking that for cut content.

It doesn't matter when they make it. For all I care, they could have a team working on it for the last 10 years. It's still content designed explicitly to be DLC. The idea that they're not supposed to even think about DLC until it's all done is completely ludicrous. That's like starting a business, then coming up with a business plan.

They're going to have ideas for DLC in mind. They said it months ago. The only surprise is that there will be enough of it to justify a season pass and honestly that should do nothing but excite anyone who is interested in extended content.

100% of the people complaining about it are pure and simple complaining about the existence of DLC regardless of context. There is no legitimate argument here even suggesting that SE is doing anything shady here. There is just people who hate DLC using this as an excuse to hate on DLC. And on that end, you may as well be telling us about your period or the dream you had last night.

This is why you tend to get nothing but emotional circular arguments when it comes up. Objector says it's because of A, you tell them that B, they'll say it doesn't matter because C. And that's because none of them have a point in the first place. Just post-facto justifications for DLC hate.
 

NemesisSP

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Say what you will, it is still a case of them putting something that was cut from the game back into it in the case of Ignis, Prompto and Gladious being made playable again. Because that was cut from the game after they changed the battle system. Early game footage showed at least Prompto playable and it was confirmed they'd be playable. I'm not saying they did it to make it DLC, because that's just stupid. But what I am saying is that in many ways, they are not being truthful about the DLC in the sense that at least them being playable was part of the game before it was cut. What the season pass might is completely different.
 

DrBretto

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Say what you will, it is still a case of them putting something that was cut from the game back into it in the case of Ignis, Prompto and Gladious being made playable again. Because that was cut from the game after they changed the battle system. Early game footage showed at least Prompto playable and it was confirmed they'd be playable. I'm not saying they did it to make it DLC, because that's just stupid. But what I am saying is that in many ways, they are not being truthful about the DLC in the sense that at least them being playable was part of the game before it was cut. What the season pass might is completely different.
You are completely delusional. Stop.
 

NemesisSP

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I'm sorry, I can't see what you are telling me unless I click the "show ignored content" so your efforts to talk to me are futile.

And even then, that seems extremely antagonistic to just outright call someone delusional. Maybe you shouldn't derail a conversation just because you don't like a person and admit that some people don't like the same things you do and aren't happy with certain decisions. You know, like a rational individual.
 

DrBretto

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I'm sorry, I can't see what you are telling me unless I click the "show ignored content" so your efforts to talk to me are futile.

And even then, that seems extremely antagonistic to just outright call someone delusional. Maybe you shouldn't derail a conversation just because you don't like a person and admit that some people don't like the same things you are and aren't happy with certain decisions. You know, like a rational individual.
There is no conversation. There are people whining about DLC in general. You are fee to dislike DLC in general all you want, but dont' pretend that whining about it is having a conversation. It's pure argumentative bullshit. It's useless. And your arguments are entirely imaginary.

When there is something actually shady to talk about, go for it. But since there clearly isn't, it's a waste of bandwidth. And frankly an embarrassment to a site like this.
 

TwoDotsO

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Say what you will, it is still a case of them putting something that was cut from the game back into it in the case of Ignis, Prompto and Gladious being made playable again. Because that was cut from the game after they changed the battle system. Early game footage showed at least Prompto playable and it was confirmed they'd be playable. I'm not saying they did it to make it DLC, because that's just stupid. But what I am saying is that in many ways, they are not being truthful about the DLC in the sense that at least them being playable was part of the game before it was cut. What the season pass might is completely different.
If we go by your definition of "cut content" then I can assure you that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of things that are cut from the game somewhere along the development cycle. And I'm not even talking about something being "cut" and then reappearing in the form of DLC, I'm talking about cut and will never make it back to the game.

Your definition isn't only one from an extremely cynical point of view, it's also simply a very irrational one. Having only Noctis controllable is a decision made out game mechanic as well as plot reasons. When you make it so that the other party members are controllable as well, that would mean you need to tweak each and every encounter in a way that it makes sense story-wise that these party members also stand toe to toe against these powerful foes. As it is right now from a story standpoint, the other party members are an aid to Noctis. Important aid, but not special like Noctis is. Think heritage and the special powers that come along with Noctis, think the summoning of the Astrals, etc.

If you make the other party members controllable in the main story, you need to customize every single encounter in such a way that it makes sense plot-wise that the gamer chooses to for example use Prompto as his main character to take out all these powerful foes without the special powers that Noctis has. You can then argue that you can still use Noctis' special powers by giving Noctis' commands, but then you'll end up with the main character of the game as well as the one with these insane powers being nothing more than a sidekick.

You can then argue that making the party members controllable could be a timed event. But that's already the case, to a lesser extent. You get to choose their special abilities when they're up and you get to execute those from their point of view. The moment that you add the option of being able to control them for say a minute, or perhaps 5 minutes at a time, you need to explain that and make it believable. Why can you control them but only for such a limited time? That's a very jarring mechanic and one that is much better ignored all together by making it clear from the get-go that you're Noctis, you're controlling Noctis and the party members are your aid.

Now, in the DLC, they have a wide range of possibilities of incorporating the controlling of the party members. Since we know nothing yet, it's all left to speculation. They can easily make these DLC a single-character experience in which you only control Prompto and don't even have the other characters around you. Think of the anime for example in which we see these characters in a context in which they're not surrounded by the others. You can make a short experience in which we see the few hours or so leading up to these characters meeting up with the others. Heck, you can even make a short experience in which these characters do their own thing long after the main story line of the show. There's countless of possibilities there.
 

NemesisSP

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If we go by your definition of "cut content" then I can assure you that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of things that are cut from the game somewhere along the development cycle. And I'm not even talking about something being "cut" and then reappearing in the form of DLC, I'm talking about cut and will never make it back to the game.

Your definition isn't only one from an extremely cynical point of view, it's also simply a very irrational one. Having only Noctis controllable is a decision made out game mechanic as well as plot reasons. When you make it so that the other party members are controllable as well, that would mean you need to tweak each and every encounter in a way that it makes sense story-wise that these party members also stand toe to toe against these powerful foes. As it is right now from a story standpoint, the other party members are an aid to Noctis. Important aid, but not special like Noctis is. Think heritage and the special powers that come along with Noctis, think the summoning of the Astrals, etc.

If you make the other party members controllable in the main story, you need to customize every single encounter in such a way that it makes sense plot-wise that the gamer chooses to for example use Prompto as his main character to take out all these powerful foes without the special powers that Noctis has. You can then argue that you can still use Noctis' special powers by giving Noctis' commands, but then you'll end up with the main character of the game as well as the one with these insane powers being nothing more than a sidekick.

You can then argue that making the party members controllable could be a timed event. But that's already the case, to a lesser extent. You get to choose their special abilities when they're up and you get to execute those from their point of view. The moment that you add the option of being able to control them for say a minute, or perhaps 5 minutes at a time, you need to explain that and make it believable. Why can you control them but only for such a limited time? That's a very jarring mechanic and one that is much better ignored all together by making it clear from the get-go that you're Noctis, you're controlling Noctis and the party members are your aid.

Now, in the DLC, they have a wide range of possibilities of incorporating the controlling of the party members. Since we know nothing yet, it's all left to speculation. They can easily make these DLC a single-character experience in which you only control Prompto and don't even have the other characters around you. Think of the anime for example in which we see these characters in a context in which they're not surrounded by the others. You can make a short experience in which we see the few hours or so leading up to these characters meeting up with the others. Heck, you can even make a short experience in which these characters do their own thing long after the main story line of the show. There's countless of possibilities there.
You do realize that I specifically said that I didn't think this was done as a chance to make it into DLC, right?

My point was still that cut content is cut content no matter what. Being reinstated even as DLC doesn't change that it was cut. The characters were originally set to be playable, it was then decided to only have Noctis be fully playable. It was cut. End of story. It might sound cynical, but that's not it. I'm just stating an obvious fact. The option was originally cut and while these episodes are making them playable, that doesn't mean it is going to extend past those episodes and into the main game.