Final Fantasy XV - General News Thread

I don't want to sound like "those" type of people but hearing abour Ravus make me mildly legit worried about his role in the game.

Kingsglaive as a whole has me worried about the game, honestly.

I don't want to sound like "those" type of people but hearing abour Ravus make me mildly legit worried about his role in the game.

Kingsglaive as a whole has me worried about the game, honestly.

So, there's at least some way to believe it might just be a Kingsglaive problem. And I still like everything else so far. But, I totally agree that it's enough to give pause and be prepared for some story issues.

I know that it might seen worrisome but I question, has there ever been a flawless narrative?

I don't have to remind you that Kingsglaive and FFXV have different writers and directors.

I know that it might seen worrisome but I question, has there ever been a flawless narrative?

I know that it might seen worrisome but I question, has there ever been a flawless narrative?

I don't have to remind you that Kingsglaive and FFXV have different writers and directors.

Tabata was still heavily involved and the movie was meant to tie in directly with the story of FFXV.

Still Takeshi Nozue is the one in charge of adapting the stuff he was given to work as a good/bad tie in and a good/bad movie on its own.

And by Tabata's own admission, Kingsglaive had a huge effect on many of the elements of the game (like the change in design for Regis) and Tabata himself doesn't particularly have a good track record with female characters. Look at how he and the writers behind The 3rd Birthday portrayed Aya Brea.

And even now, Tabata's strengths and weaknesses as a story teller are on display even in Kingsglaive, where most of the issues can mostly be attributed to Nozue. So, it's a good cause for alarm.

Thing is Tabata didnt write the story, yes he overlooked the story but if the game and movie have different writers the quality will obviously differ.

In many ways I'm in agreement. I wanted very much to see a full Nomura directed Final Fantasy game and the fact that it was set to be the darkest got me very interested.

But, as for Tabata, I actually liked him better when he was not the director of this game. Or at least the sole director of it. I enjoy what he's done with the gameplay and that he's willing to be open about the development. But for me, after rereading so many of his interviews and seeing so many of his contradictory statements, I can't say I think he's a great director. I think there is such a thing as being too open and in many cases, Tabata has been that. And it hasn't always been a good thing, such as how he explained Stella's removal.

Look, there's a reason that is always gonna hang over his head and it's because it just feels so unnecessary, no matter what. And I've seen many fans annoyed by his latest reveal about the reason she was changed. It didn't sound like he was trying to be respectful, it sounded like he was blaming us for her not being able to be in the game. That's the impression so many got from it and the fact that Luna has gotten a mixed response from so many even after Kingsglaive showed more of her isn't making the loss of Stella any better.

Where am I going with this? Well, basically it's just that while I am still looking forward to the game, I'm apprehensive because it feels like it's going to be a mess when it comes to the story. I'm not making a snap judgment on this, there are a lot of good elements to the game, but there's also a lot of elements that just don't fit. If Cindy wasn't supposed to be a sexualized character, than why is it that so many scenes featuring her have her in some way ogled by the camera. If Luna is as strong as you say, why is it that our first look at her was of her looking passive and weak willed? And why would you say she doesn't need saving when she needed to be saved by Nyx at some point? I know she does other stuff, but it's just an example.

Over all, there's nothing wrong with people who who are absolutely fine with the changes and people who can't stand them. It's too early to tell if these will be valid or not and I hope to be proven wrong. But, I still don't trust Tabata's vision and I can't honestly say I want him to do another big Final Fantasy game. I think he's better with spinoff games.

You can be skeptical about XV all you want, but don't try to make it seem like it would have been better if they hadn't changed things. Reality is, you don't have a concrete idea about what stayed and what was removed from Versus. What we got in all the 8 years of the project being under Nomura was 4-5 trailers with so many vague things and concepts that we filled and connected the dots with our own expectations and imaginations of how things would end up being. There was no concrete story back in Versus either, Nomura changed his vision several times, one of them the whole meeting with Stella and Noctis. Back in 2008, Noctis and Stella didn't have prior knowledge of each other, but in 2013 they were apparently childhood friends. The original concept might have been 100 times worse that what we got in Kingsglaive but no one knows for sure. Also, we've seen Luna in game in recent footage and she definitely doesn't seem like she is weak, heck, even in the movie she wasn't "weak willed" as you would describe her. What baffles me is, Stella is supposedly strong because she summoned her weapon against Noctis for a second but it can't be applied to Luna whom we've seen her against Leviathan? This Stella vs Luna is so dumb because the only reason people prefer Stella is because she is a fragment of Nomura's vision -_-

I am just honestly sick of people giving Nomura all the benefit of the doubt in the world despite what he is doing with FFVIIR while ripping Tabata to shreds over changes that were bound to happen in game development. Let him release his game and judge it for its own merits instead of making snap judgements about it just because you prefer Nomura.

What we have seen of the FFXV so far has convinced me that Tabata is doing pretty good job as the director of the game. The story is a mystery still but I can't judge it before I have played the game, but the gameplay looks fun at least.

If we are comparing Tabata and Nomura as directors, I would say I might prefer Tabata to be honest. As much as I like, for example, Kingdom Hearts, I don't think the direction of those games is really that remarkable. In my opinion the directing in FFXV seem much more better... But yeah, that's just my opinion and that said I don't think Type-0 was that great game though even though it was directed by Tabata so I'm not giving him a chance just because what I have seen from him in the past.

Okay, first off, that wasn't what I was saying at all. Second, as I said in my criticism of her, Luna has to stand as her own character. And she doesn't. I thought she was a terrible character and weak despite the dialogue claiming otherwise. It has nothing to do with Stella being able to summon a weapon that makes Luna weak, even as she fights against a Leviathan. It doesn't help that, according to the movie, Luna has no magical powers, has no fighting ability and no other way to defend herself. She has to rely on Nyx and others to help her out.

Whereas Stella was described and shown, to have powers similar to Noctis and that she was perfectly capable of defending herself and was one of the acting antagonists. But that's the only comparison I'll draw with Luna and Stella because Luna should stand on her own. And on her own, she is a weak, useless character who almost certainly caused every single issue in the move and game and even her captivity in Nilfheim is her own fault for letting go of Regis at the beginning, even though there's no indication that he couldn't have protected her against the Nilfheim soldiers or that they'd want her alive. After all, one of the robot soldiers tried to kill her brother. And her attempts to help Regis in the movie don't help, because she's shown to be suicidally overconfident in her non abilities to help. If it weren't for others helping her, she'd be dead ten times over.

But let me ask you, who are you to tell people off for mentioning they wanted to see what Nomura had to offer for a game that frequently got delayed beyond his control and then taken from him and given to someone who before than had only ever done handheld games? But like Luna, Tabata has to stand on his own merits and so far, from a story perspective, he is not impressing me. His gameplay is great, his characters from what we've seen are lacking. Type-0 showed these strengths and weaknesses too. The gameplay was good, the characters were meh at best and the story a confusing mess. Tabata is a great gameplay director, but both Type-0 and The 3rd Birthday have shown that he is also a weak storyteller.