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Final Fantasy XV - General News Thread

Discussion in 'Final Fantasy Discussion' started by LeonBlade, Jan 18, 2015.

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  1. Noctis_Caelum

    Noctis_Caelum PSICOM Soldier

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  2. Jubileus

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    This is "if" they're taking the game route and not the movie or comic path. I don't think too many people would be happy with the latter tbh.

    It depends on their budget and with the way Tabata answered the questions in that interview, they're having difficulty fitting everything in still.

    My point is I'm curious as to what they mean by a "full game". As in 40+ hours? Cuz that would take years and they don't have years.

    It could be 10 hours? 5? 5 hours is dlc length so I'm just curious as to what he means by "game" per se.

    Interesting point about the party members. They'd have to come up with new characters for that.
    From what I'm seeing, he's like Luna in that he just traveled around healing people by himself but with his chocobo companion instead of Gentiana.... or maybe she accompanied him too?
     
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  3. SonOfEtro

    SonOfEtro ShinRa SOLDIER

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    I wouldn't object to a 2½ movie detailing Ardyn's youth, his receiving the gift of the Astrals and using it as he sees fit, and his betrayal by both the Astrals and the royal line which stole his surname. Might be a chance to develop him as a character in a different way, showing his human side rather than simply portraying him as a wandering healer (that would be rather bland in my opinion). I'd love to her Darin de Paul doing both his mature Ardyn for present-day segments and a younger version of him.

    Also, wouldn't it be great if he was accompanied by someone, and that someone was Gilgamesh, and that Ardyn agreed to grant Gilgamesh a kind of immortality as part of his wish to gain revenge on the Astrals and the King's line. But that's just pure wishful thinking on my part. Gilgamesh will sadly probably remain an eyebrow-raising McGuffin.
     
  4. Jubileus

    Jubileus AVALANCHE Warrior

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    I guess I'm not too fussed over the medium so long as they tell the story well and do it justice

    That's my main concern.

    However if I had to choose, I'd pick a game.

    Fully agree that Darin de Paul should voice him again if it's a film. Most likely it will be since he voiced Ardyn in KG anyway and he loves the role.

    There is the possibility of an anime too. I guess the least desirable route would be the comic.

    They're still deciding. Other than the options mentioned above I think that's all the mediums they can tell his story on... unless they're going to create a mobile game cuz fuck no to that.

    Another thing is I wonder if they're going to wedge in the Astrals story into Ardyn's?

    I admit, I was disappointed when Tabata said they had no plans on telling the Astrals story but if you think about it, the Astrals and Ardyn's tale are so intertwined that I can't help but think that they will be included in some way.
     
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    SQ is way more competent doing games, so i'd rather have that.

    about how related to the astrals his story is, i checked the ultimania translation (https://thelifestream.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19635) about the history of eos and it seems the war of the gods happened before he was even born.

    in the ancient civilization of solheim, the gods resided with the people and then Ifrit betrayed them, then solheim is destroyed and lucis, tenebrae and accordo are formed... then the plague happens after i don't know how much.

    it doesn't seem solheim will be explorable here, since it's gone.
     
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    Jubileus AVALANCHE Warrior

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    @Storm omfg thank you for that link!

    I've been looking for the translation but was too busy to search properly.

    Ah man. I was wrong about that then. Well I hope they at least explain why
    Ardyn and Ifrit teamed up, and how that came to be.
     
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    for damn sure, there's still that "mistery" to be resolved.

    they'd have to deal with the hexatheon, either they want it or not lol.

    there's plenty of things they could show anyway just to give some context, like the gods blessing the first oracle/king, the messengers, and the dlc would probably happen during the beginning of the lucis kingdom and so on.

    edit: and yeah for some reason i thought the first plague happened in the old age.
     
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  8. Jubileus

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    So the bestiary update is out.

    It's got lore for each enemy/character apparently. Very good news.

    Here's an example:

    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/75722427

    I must say, reading this really does make a difference and is quite insightful. Never would've known that about Ifrit otherwise.

    So Ifrit hates humans because he was betrayed by them, and he used to rule Solheim too.

    Ardyn was to be the First King, but never got the chance to be.
     
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    Makes you wonder whether it could have been any of the other Astrals, and what they would have done. Leviathan seemed more than ready to wash away the world. Scary. Very... well, very familiar.
     
  10. Jubileus

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    Ifrit and Leviathan definitely hated humans.

    Ramuh and Titan don't give a crap lol

    Shiva is the only one that seems to care somewhat.

    Bahamut
    is a douche.
     
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    So I'm seeing this comparison a lot lately.

    I'm seeing people says they wouldn't mind Ardyn's game being done like Uncharted: Lost Legacy.

    Haven't played that one yet.

    Could someone explain to me what's so great about that game for people to want Ardyn's story to be done like it?
     
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    So (in attitudes only) Leviathan and Ifrit stand in as Lindzei, Ramuh and Titan as Pulse, Bahamut as Bhunivelze, and Shiva as Etro. I see how they probably adapted to fit without it being overt or necessarily obvious. Nice!
    Lost Legacy takes a couple of strong but secondary characters and gives them leading roles. It's wonderfully done. No sign of any of the main players, only supporting or secondary characters. Seriously, the dynamic and evolution of Chloe and Nadine is amazing; must be seen to be believed.
     
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    i wasn't expecting the bestiary to be this good, model viewer? lore tidbits? second best bestiary of the franchise after XII's

    *can't rotate or zoom shiva's model*

    this is trash

    edit:
    Gralea out of bounds


    edit2:
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/75722427/885714423

    "Japanese version: Says Ifrit bestowed mankind with "the fire / flame of Wisdom", ie. not literally just fire, but knowledge and intelligence (?). Says he was the King of Solheim, but doesn't say anything about his Solheim subjects rebelling against him. Says that when he was resurrected via starscourge, the starscourge corrupted both his body and mind.

    English version: Says Ifrit gave men the "gift of fire" (literally just fire?). Says Ifrit's "once-loyal subjects turned against him". Doesn't say anything about the corruption of his body and mind via starscourge resurrection.

    German version: Says Ifrit was once "a lover of mankind" and that his gift of knowledge led to the success of the Solheim civilization. Doesn't say anything about Ifrit being the King of Solheim. Says the people of Solheim became drunk with power and turned against "the Gods" (not just Ifrit, ALL the gods). Has the line about the corruption of body ("externally") and mind ("internally") via starscourge.

    =Shiva's description=

    Japanese version: Says she is the "foil to Ifrit", ie. the yin to his yang, his polar opposite, you get the idea. Says nothing about her demise being "corporeal" or otherwise, only that she was defeated by the Niflheim army.

    English version: Doesn't say anything about Shiva being the foil to Ifrit. Says that her demise was only "corporeal".

    German version of Shiva's description: Doesn't say anything about Shiva being the foil to Ifrit, but says she was Ifrit's lover before he went mad. WTF. When did Ifrit go insane??

    I haven't had the time to look at all the descriptions in the bestiary, but the ones for Ravus and Melusine are also slightly different. The text for Ravus in Japanese states outright that daemon Ravus wasn't actually fighting at full daemonic power because what little awareness he had left was actively holding his daemonic instincts back. The English and German versions mention the part about his surpressing his daemonic instincts, but not the fact that he wasn't fighting at full strength. The Japanese text for Melusine notes that she is "a new daemon that has only appeared recently", that her seductive appearance has led to all kinds of speculation among the hunters (in regards to her origin, I suppose?), and clearly states that all her victims have been men, no exceptions. These lines aren't in the English and German versions either..."

    holy shit, is this complementary information or the localization team is just nuts? i think we should have chosen Ifrit's betrayal, we made a mistake lol
     
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    Siiiiick. And wait, how did someone manage to warp into Gralea after all this time? Something is weird there too. Prompto is at the tunnel entrance if you can warp out of Gralea it seems.
     
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    Found this interesting post about the localizations for different languages having differing info regarding the lore of the game and characters.

    Worth a read since some translations miss certain info.

    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/75722427/885714423

    Ifrit and Shiva were lovers? Well damn. Not sure how that's possible since I would've thought they'd hurt each other physically but interesting nonetheless.

    Ifrit being resurrected by the Starscourge and corrupted by it was left out of the English translation.

    Ravus holding back and not fighting at full strength wasn't surprising seeing as he screamed " Ardyn - curse you!" throughout the fight.
     
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    omnis lacrima makes everything 1000x epic
     
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    The flying Daemons from the TGS 2014 trailer are flying around Gralea in the sky in the video, yet we never fought them.
     
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    The lore in the bestiary is so freaking awesome.

    I swear it actually adds layers to the game. Reading about
    Naglfar and Bandersnatch was cool. Goes to show that they did have a lot of story done but didn't have the time to put it in.
     
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    I have to say the bestiary came out better than i expected, i'd argue it would count as a story update in smaller scale as of latest patch release.
     
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    This is true in a sense.

    I mean, I definitely learned things about this game and its characters just from reading it.

    Ok now I REALLY want to know more about the Astrals. The FFXV Ifrit is shaping up to be the best Ifrit in the franchise imo.
     
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