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Final Fantasy XV - Sales Thread

Discussion in 'Final Fantasy Discussion' started by SonOfEtro, Dec 1, 2016.

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  1. DrBretto

    DrBretto AVALANCHE Warrior

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    I want to make this 100% clear: if you have a valid argument to make about the decline of sales, I'm interested. I have zero stake in the company, and to be honest, the further away from the game I get, the less favourably lit it is. This has nothing to do with you insulting my binky as much as you'd like to think it is. The reason I say it's trolling is because you're harping on the same argument still. From the same angle. With the same lack of supporting sentences. It came off 100% like you were trying to get a rise out of anyone who read the numbers as the game doing fairly well by grasping at the same straw from months ago. And put it in there without context to further skew the point in your favor.
     
  2. Airy Ariah

    Airy Ariah Balamb Garden Freshman

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    weren't you the one banned from GAF for being an insufferable zealot? lol
     
  3. APZonerunner

    APZonerunner Network Boss-man Staff Member Administrator Site Staff UFFSite Veteran

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    Ah, simmer down, please.

    RE straws - it's not really grasping at straws so much as looking at the ongoing developing situation and analysing it. I don't give a shit about getting a rise out of anyone, cos yo: if this matters to anyone who isn't worried about balancing SE's books that much I'm not really interested in talking to them and they need to take a damn step back. I'm interested in how the situation will impact the future of the series from a scientific perspective, and as I said, the decline in Japan (fuelled by the market, or the game, or as I believe, both) will have a direct impact on the types of games they choose to make going forwards and who they target them at. Thus it's important to note that while in Japan they've had some success and staved off some of the worries about a total washout, there's still a significant difference to account for (which, I reiterate, is well in excess of the market average) which'll no doubt be analysed deeply within SE.
     
  4. Guitar (pseudo)God

    Guitar (pseudo)God Red Wings Commander

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    I don't think it was trolling, but rather exploring the whys of the series decline in Japan. @APZonerunner believes it's a combination of the market and the game itself. Myself, I share your view that the game itself had much to do with the decline in sales. The market for Japanese-developed games is elsewhere, and the sales (which are very strong) reflect that. All told, I still think it'll get close to FFX numbers and beat out FFXII and FFXIII. That's enough evidence to show the brand still is healthy. More importantly, the brand is able to evolve to meet the demands of the shifting marketplace. I still love the hell out of the game, warts and all, and I look forward to seeing the lessons learned here implemented into FFXVI.
     
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  5. Storm

    Storm AVALANCHE Warrior

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    so RE7 sold poorly compared to it's predecessors in japan, the market shift definitely hurt FFXV sales more than the damage caused by FFXIII (said "damage" was harmless in NA, so i believe ppl overestimated it).
     
  6. APZonerunner

    APZonerunner Network Boss-man Staff Member Administrator Site Staff UFFSite Veteran

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    Resi is a weird outlier because - as I detailed a few posts ago - Capcom has basically given up on the Japanese market for it and fully targeted it at the West (and it'll work out, I think). Resi, like FF, is tracking a decline in Japan that's a lot sharper than the average (though it still topped the charts)
     
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  7. Nova

    Nova AVALANCHE Warrior

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    Does this confirm 6 million units sold?

    http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/01/final-fantasy-xv-director-still-wants-port-game-high-end-pcs/
     
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  8. Storm

    Storm AVALANCHE Warrior

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    Nova AVALANCHE Warrior

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    "The Final Fantasy brand is tarnished!!!" they said...
     
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  10. Cloud

    Cloud Stiltzkin's Apprentice

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    I hope not! I think this is a very good result!!!
     
  11. llazy77

    llazy77 Sphere Hunter

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    Hope this dosent mean they think they could release 16 incomplete and that is ok and it will sell.
     
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  12. Nova

    Nova AVALANCHE Warrior

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    Flawed narrative =/= incomplete. Cut content should not be defined that way.

    Also very late reply to quote but i'm getting this off my chest:

    Ad hominem is not an argument. Kindly knock it off, its very petty.
     
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  13. T.O.T

    T.O.T Clan Centurio Member

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    Meh, getting banned on GAF is nothing. You could sneeze the wrong way and get banned. Also, a lot of games in general have flawed narratives in some aspect or another. That doesn't mean that content still can't be enjoyed.
     
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  14. Hey Everyone

    Hey Everyone ShinRa SOLDIER

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    It's incomplete and rushed, slap dashed together to make a quick buck, don't even. It's not just the cut content even though it's apart of it, this narrative is missing cutscenes, necessary cutscenes, and plot points, that are introduced in the later half of the game, but are completely undeveloped.
     
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  15. Hey Everyone

    Hey Everyone ShinRa SOLDIER

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    Don't worry bruh, they'll make Final Fantasy XVI 75% percent of a game and release the other 25% as an expansion and DLCs, oh and don't forget the several year hype train. Oh and don't worry you will have misleading hype trailers to, years, and years of over-promising, and hyping. All culminating in a disappointing climax. and it will sell just fine.
     
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  16. llazy77

    llazy77 Sphere Hunter

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    Disgusting
     
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  17. Storm

    Storm AVALANCHE Warrior

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    so much cynicism with a bit of drama and salt

    i like it

    also if you think releasing an "incomplete" game is a new thing, research the development of many old square games and please free yourself from ignorance.
     
  18. Lulcielid

    Lulcielid Turk

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    If there is nothing to contribute to this thread, let it rest, it has served its purpose.
     
  19. Hey Everyone

    Hey Everyone ShinRa SOLDIER

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    Well luckily the old games, were great story rich complete experiences at least the best ones of course. Then XII-XIV happened. That didn't overpromise and under-deliver Also the problem with FFXV isn't just that it's unfinished, no the game is lacking regardless of it being finished or not. Unlike VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
     
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  20. Hey Everyone

    Hey Everyone ShinRa SOLDIER

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    Don't worry for XVI they will give you the best trailer in existence, and not deliver in a single bit of it. Don't worry man Final Fantasy XVI.
     
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