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SonOfEtro

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It's official; XV DotF was delayed into 2020. No explanations been given. It will release as an (English only apparently) hardcover with 50 pieces of dedicated artwork and concept art! Next month, I'm pre-ordering.

https://www.siliconera.com/2019/10/...awn-of-the-future-delayed-until-june-23-2020/

https://jpgames.de/2019/10/final-fa...e-future-erscheint-am-23-juni-2020-im-westen/

EDIT: It's being translated by Stephen Kohler. I hadn't heard of him before, so I did some research; he translates the manga Witch Hat Atelier along with a number of other manga and light novels. Haven't read any of them, so can't comment on his translation style.

Here's the English summary.

To oppose the gods or yield to fate?

That is the question confronting each of the characters in The Dawn of the Future. Ardyn, having saved countless lives from the Starscourge, means to become the Founder King of Lucis and instead is cast into tragic exile. On the day the Empire falls, as the imperial capital collapses around them, Commodore Aranea is entrusted with the life of a singular young girl. The Oracle Lunafreya, upon awakening from the slumber of death, discovers that her body has undergone an extraordinary transformation. And after gazing upon the eternal, Noctis, the True King, finally comes to terms with his destiny. Herein lie the stories of the dawning of a new world in Final Fantasy XV.
 
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Vallen

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It appears SQEX has a sense of humour. Dissidia NT has a third costume for Noctis...based on how he appeared in the first two trailers for Versus XIII. He even has a Versus-inspired victory pose.
YESSS
Lmao we get it officially in Dissidia but not on the main game.

Thanks
feelsbadman T_T but on the other hand they're officially acknowledging Versus XIII... at the end on 2019.. lets all stop and take that in for a moment.
 

Bazztek

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I saw some people in Japan tweet about this last month too, from what I remember them tweeting about one of the videos is like a lineup of the monsters in the game in engine with Noct just running passed all of them, it's more of a display showcase for size comparison of the models kind of thing rather than any gameplay or cutscenes or in-game things we've never seen, that English confirms as much since one of the things is called Monster Line-up, one is also called World of Wonder which was the name they used for a few videos prior to release, one of them focused on the monsters and wildlife in their environments.

I'm also curious if that Catoblepas video is actually showing some extended early dev footage from like this
This footage that Takeshi Shiba from BD2 showed in 2017 is from a build that predates even the stuff we saw in September 2014, and is likely footage from when they were migrating to Luminous itself. During the video Takeshi mentions how it's an early development video for when they were working out the size scaling of the Catoblepas in the world.
 
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I just realized, the Mystic tried to make Nyx choose between saving Libertus or Luna when Drautos was about to slay them. Why? He wanted to know what Nyx would have done, considering Somnus, Ardyn and Aera were in the same position and Somnus slayed Aera. Nyx refuting the whole idea, and therefore seeing a way that the king himself couldn't see is probably why he was granted the power of the ring, not because he strictly believed in the future. It was because Nyx didn't believe in one way to do things the same as Somnus.
 
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I just realized, the Mystic tried to make Nyx choose between saving Libertus or Luna when Drautos was about to slay them. Why? He wanted to know what Nyx would have done, considering Somnus, Ardyn and Aera were in the same position and Somnus slayed Aera. Nyx refuting the whole idea, and therefore seeing a way that the king himself couldn't see is probably why he was granted the power of the ring, not because he strictly believed in the future. It was because Nyx didn't believe in one way to do things the same as Somnus.
I always interpreted that scene as Somnus just testing Nyx's selflessness. He probably would have burned if he chose to selfishly sacrifice someone else but because he opted to sacrifice himself he was granted the full power of the ring. From the Kings of Yore's perspective it would be a bad idea to give that power to someone who is only looking out for themselves and trying to weasel their way out of accepting the full burden of the responsibility that comes with the ring's power. We see this concept come into usage again with Ignis when the ring constantly asks him if he only wants to risk death or outright sacrifice everything for Noct. Up until he lets go of that last shred of hesitance to straight up die the ring doesn't grant him its full power. The only difference there is that Ignis doesn't immediately burn for not going all in which can probably be attributed to the fact that he is already fiercely loyal to the chosen king which prompts the Lucii to give him some more leeway.
 
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I always interpreted that scene as Somnus just testing Nyx's selflessness. He probably would have burned if he chose to selfishly sacrifice someone else but because he opted to sacrifice himself he was granted the full power of the ring. From the Kings of Yore's perspective it would be a bad idea to give that power to someone who is only looking out for themselves and trying to weasel their way out of accepting the full burden of the responsibility that comes with the ring's power. We see this concept come into usage again with Ignis when the ring constantly asks him if he only wants to risk death or outright sacrifice everything for Noct. Up until he lets go of that last shred of hesitance to straight up die the ring doesn't grant him its full power. The only difference there is that Ignis doesn't immediately burn for not going all in which can probably be attributed to the fact that he is already fiercely loyal to the chosen king which prompts the Lucii to give him some more leeway.
He was testing Nyx's selfishness. Somnus acted selfishly, and then when acquiring the ring, learned of his role. Ultimately, it seems all 13 Kings of Yore were significant in that they had great guilt due to a massive tragedy in their tenure. Somnus, specifically, was the betrayal of his own brother for his own gain. Nyx underwent a test of selfishness, but ultimately it's because Somnus sorely wants to see someone do better than he did. Nyx didn't sacrifice Libertus or Luna, or try to even highlight their safety. Rather than letting his own personal feelings get involved, Nyx sought out a future that didn't see him betraying two people close to him. Nyx didn't even consider it, whereas Somnus was consumed with guilt for what he did to Ardyn, someone who like Nyx didn't care about the semantics, merely about the greater good.

If Somnus denied Nyx the power of the ring after his little speech, Somnus would be denying someone less selfish than him the power he himself stole. It's both a test of Nyx's character and selfishness, but ultimately, moreso Somnus wants someone more brave than him. Nyx merely sought the diversion Regis wanted, so the big Insomnia battle happened and Nyx, merely a refugee, died. Ignis himself was dedicated to the Chosen King and given he didn't burn through the magic of the ring like Nyx, and due to his proximity, they likely did allow Ignis to live to protect Noctis. However, given Ignis's main desire (as told by the theme of his alternate ending, "My Humblest Desire"), was to see Noct grow up as king. The price for using the ring was his greatest desire. Nyx wanted a future for people like his sister to see, so he was robbed of the chance to ultimately live for it. Somnus seems to be of the belief that those who use the crystal and ring are typically those that must atone for using such power (likely a Bahamut thing). As such, there is always a price to pay for using the crystal, the kings using their own lifespan. However, the Lucii and those worthy of the ring tend to have some level of selfish desire that may be exploited, and ultimately while Ignis did want to protect Noctis, it was because of his relationship more than his care of the future (he even states Ardyn could do whatever with the world in the alternate ending). As such, Ignis paid with his desire for Noct to live his life.

Bahamut seems to be of the opinion that due to mankind building the Omega Weapon, they must die and as such, even their protectors in Lucis must also bleed and suffer with their own lives and even undeath as the Lucii remain unable to really pass on due to their accomplishments, typically involving a shitload of people dying and suffering.
 

stolas

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We don't know if that's actually true seemingly that the fleshed out story of Somnus and Ardyn came after the release of the game and film. You have to take it simply as, if they aren't part of the Royal Family then they aren't worthy and it could be about Nyx being worthy just due to his selflessness. Any speculation that has to do with Somnus' feelings about/ towards Ardryn in the film has to be taken with a grain of salt considering that may have not been the original intention of the when the film was released due to most of the back stories ( Like Shiva and Ifrit) was given after release and is technically retconning.
 
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We don't know if that's actually true seemingly that the fleshed out story of Somnus and Ardyn came after the release of the game and film. You have to take it simply as, if they aren't part of the Royal Family then they aren't worthy and it could be about Nyx being worthy just due to his selflessness. Any speculation that has to do with Somnus' feelings about/ towards Ardryn in the film has to be taken with a grain of salt considering that may have not been the original intention of the when the film was released due to most of the back stories ( Like Shiva and Ifrit) was given after release and is technically retconning.
Is it a retcon if the story had the slots for this to be explained anyways? Ardyn was confirmed to have cut content from the main game. The datamine itself even described a scene that was in the Ardyn anime. The game had a major theme of betrayal. Ifrit being slain by Bahamut, Ardyn being betrayed by Somnus. It's not exactly strange thinking about the newer stuff, even with it's newer additions, still being part of the plan from the get go. The game already got scaled down for the launch game, but with the extra DLC, were able to bulk up their cut content a little more than they originally planned. So some of the stuff, especially like how EP: Noctis seems to progress, were part of the game from the get go except on a smaller scale.
 
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stolas

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Is it a retcon if the story had the slots for this to be explained anyways? Ardyn was confirmed to have cut content from the main game. The datamine itself even described a scene that was in the Ardyn anime. The game had a major theme of betrayal. Ifrit being slain by Bahamut, Ardyn being betrayed by Somnus. It's not exactly strange thinking about the newer stuff, even with it's newer additions, still being part of the plan from the get go. The game already got scaled down for the launch game, but with the extra DLC, were able to bulk up their cut content a little more than they originally planned. So some of the stuff, especially like how EP: Noctis seems to progress, were part of the game from the get go except on a smaller scale.
You can tell it was retconned. Aera was definitely a later addition, there was never any indication that Ardyn tried killing Regis previously, and That Ardyn's brother was even named Somnus until a year after release. The only cut content that was confirmed was that Ardyn was to have a different final battle.