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I'm not sure either, but the leak does say that it will have alot of new informations about Ardyn in Gralea.
Maybe the next DLCS won't actually be "Episodes" where you play as the involved character? Tabata did say that the next DLCs will be completely different and that they want to "fix" the main story of the game with them.
So maybe we'll play Noctis & Co in expanded areas of chapter 12/13 and discover more about Ardyn and his past without actually playing him? I'll be pretty okay with that.
Maybe the next DLCS won't actually be "Episodes" where you play as the involved character? Tabata did say that the next DLCs will be completely different and that they want to "fix" the main story of the game with them.
So maybe we'll play Noctis & Co in expanded areas of chapter 12/13 and discover more about Ardyn and his past without actually playing him? I'll be pretty okay with that.
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I think we will find out in a few days. If it really is coming out in may, they will probably showcase the trailer in pax.
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The DLC realistically has to happen after chapter 13 to preserve the twist I think.
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The dlc says that chapter 12 and 13 will be expanded and maybe even changed. Technically the crystal section with bahamut is part of chapter 13. So imagine this: we get the expanded gralea in chapter 12 then chapter 13 we get ardyn's playable story inside the crystal.
Edit: And maybe this is how dlcs are structured: each dlc has 2 parts.
Edit: And maybe this is how dlcs are structured: each dlc has 2 parts.
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Most likely Episode Ardyn release would likely be anywhere from end of May to July so that just comes off as deductive reasoning. If we don't get another Episode (Either Ravus or Regis, more than likely Ravus) most likely the Chapters that would be expanded on is 10-12. I doubt 13 is going to be changed or that we'll get an explorable Gralea considering it's length and how much they would have to change/scrap. Chapter 14 change was easy because it was such a small chapter/ a very minor explorable area. 10-12 are the shortest chapters and based on two factors 1) Tabata stating in a recent interview that he was making more enemies 2) They have been slowly upgrading Succarpe (in my Royal Edition play through I noticed it now has garulas in the landscape and there has been OBB videos showing some changes) those are way more likely to get an expansion. Remember that train station they made and never integrated due to time constraints? I could see that being finished off and thrown into Chapter 10. Also I could see the Royal Vessel being able to go over to that continent in the "Past Lucis" segment if it was finished off/ explorable.
Edit: Considering how limited the Royal Vessel was to almost where it was an unnecessary addition it's likely that we'll be getting a Chapter 10 expansion so the Vessel can access it. So I say no on this "leak".
Edit: Considering how limited the Royal Vessel was to almost where it was an unnecessary addition it's likely that we'll be getting a Chapter 10 expansion so the Vessel can access it. So I say no on this "leak".
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Well my point is I personally think that leak is kind of bullshit lol. I think we'll get reworks to those chapters at some point, but not with Ardyn. The leak also makes it seem like Gralea is totally fine, but it's supposed to be over-run be daemons already. The documents in the keep lead me to believe that they'll never change that aspect.
Unless none of that has to do with Ardyn, I severely doubt it's true. It' mostly just a bunch of regurgitated info from interviews
Unless none of that has to do with Ardyn, I severely doubt it's true. It' mostly just a bunch of regurgitated info from interviews
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On that note though, if they ever do anything with Gralea, I always said just covering how the 3 bros got out of Gralea after chapter 13 while being haunted by Ardyn would be the best route. It wouldnt alter or change anything about the main story. To find an airship or something. Smaller than the new insomnia, could even be linear for all I care.
The only other things I'd actually want in Niflheim are just more overall stops everywhere:
1. Altissia (believe it or not, there are signs that the cut trainstation is actually from here and the train sequence starts here; the railway connects to Niflheim via an underground tunnel, that's my guess anyway)
2. Succarpe (at least one relaxing town/area)
3. Cartanica (Let us at least walk to the quarry, the town is now known to be abandoned)
4. Eusciello (Abandoned Factory town with the whole desert/snow phenomenon, teases the eventual Shiva sequence)
5. Piztala (we stop here when Nilfhiem ambushes the train, but let us destroy the actual base)
6. Pagla (there's an actual train station here that the game skips, boot up Chapter 12 and you can see it almost immediately when it starts, it's a Cliffside/beach area)
7. Tenebrae (the only part where I hope they rewrite the story and let Noct get there before the Invasion; a decent sized dungeon)
8. Ghorovas Rift (add the mini-dungeon adapted from the pocket Edition)
9. Gralea, same but adds the playable section I mentioned above.
The only thing we can be sure about is Tabata confirmed many new monsters in future DLC so that is exciting. I hope some of these pertain to Niflheim wildlife, which are practically reused from Lucis or non-existent save for Malboro
The only other things I'd actually want in Niflheim are just more overall stops everywhere:
1. Altissia (believe it or not, there are signs that the cut trainstation is actually from here and the train sequence starts here; the railway connects to Niflheim via an underground tunnel, that's my guess anyway)
2. Succarpe (at least one relaxing town/area)
3. Cartanica (Let us at least walk to the quarry, the town is now known to be abandoned)
4. Eusciello (Abandoned Factory town with the whole desert/snow phenomenon, teases the eventual Shiva sequence)
5. Piztala (we stop here when Nilfhiem ambushes the train, but let us destroy the actual base)
6. Pagla (there's an actual train station here that the game skips, boot up Chapter 12 and you can see it almost immediately when it starts, it's a Cliffside/beach area)
7. Tenebrae (the only part where I hope they rewrite the story and let Noct get there before the Invasion; a decent sized dungeon)
8. Ghorovas Rift (add the mini-dungeon adapted from the pocket Edition)
9. Gralea, same but adds the playable section I mentioned above.
The only thing we can be sure about is Tabata confirmed many new monsters in future DLC so that is exciting. I hope some of these pertain to Niflheim wildlife, which are practically reused from Lucis or non-existent save for Malboro
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I think the last update/ part of the expansion they might give us is a pre-invasion Insomnia. I figure they would want to go out with a bang and I think that would entice fans the most.
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Tbh, if 2 of the 4 DLC are dedicated to updating the front and back halfs of the game, then I'd be completely satisfied. If not, I hope that if they continue these character-centric DLC, they focus on expanding the main games story as a result.
I agree with you, every part of the game could use some sort of expansion, and it's funny because the game is huge already, but it's a monster that effectively needs as much as it can get.
I agree with you, every part of the game could use some sort of expansion, and it's funny because the game is huge already, but it's a monster that effectively needs as much as it can get.
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I don't think Pagla will ever be explorable, especially with how Chapter 12 started, as Noctis wakes up on the train, still moving, and if they do 'Episode: Ravus', if 'EPR' in the data stands for Ravus, and the Tenebrae invasion were to be part of it, Chapter 12's Tenebrae section might not change at all, as Ravus could explore Tenebrae rather than Noctis, same with Eusciello and Piztala, they could expand on Chapter 11 a little if they add more scenes with Ardyn and Prompto after Noctis got knocked out in the train while time was stopped before the loading screen.
As much as I hate the idea of constantly changing the storyline of a Final Fantasy game or an RPG game in general, I actually want them to since they've already started and XV really honestly needs it given that the later half of the game falls flat in many areas.
Altissia is so small in comparison to what I think a lot of people expected, it would be great to actually explore the town more or at least go to where the area is with more trees but perhaps that's too much to ask for.
Tenebrae being completely cut from the game was such a gut wrencher... I really hope they just replace that part of the game with a way to explore the city like it was originally envisioned. It was never supposed to just be lit on fire, otherwise, why would they have teased it some of the trailers? It's sad to see so much cut from XV, and if they have to patch the game over time to add these things back in, then I'm all for it.
Altissia is so small in comparison to what I think a lot of people expected, it would be great to actually explore the town more or at least go to where the area is with more trees but perhaps that's too much to ask for.
Tenebrae being completely cut from the game was such a gut wrencher... I really hope they just replace that part of the game with a way to explore the city like it was originally envisioned. It was never supposed to just be lit on fire, otherwise, why would they have teased it some of the trailers? It's sad to see so much cut from XV, and if they have to patch the game over time to add these things back in, then I'm all for it.
I'm down for this, would be quite fitting expanding the beginning like they've fleshed out the end. Game deserves a more proper prolugue.
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I agree, the revamped Chapter 14 added through the Royal Pack was a great start, I do hope they do something like this for the first and second halves, I do think the second half suffered more than the first half, as the second half was where things fell apart for me as we hear about the Tenebrae invasion, seeing Tenebrae on fire but never there for it as we only arrive at the aftermath of it, and no cutscenes showing the Niflheim empire's fall, the first half was okay, aside from some situations like Jared's death, Noctis mourning for him and not Regis, and Gladiolus and Iris not even bringing up Clarus and mourning for him, and Chapter 8, they need more story content, and to be more open in the second half, but still have some linearity in the second half, but more open, and with more coherence and more content, even if the have to change things.
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It's fake, you can just search those post numbers on /v/ and it goes to an old thread with another "leak" from December 2017, whoever made that image photoshopped a screencap of that thread and replaced the text and dates, but left the post numbers in. That pic is 100% fake.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/398683287/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/398683287/