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masterlobo

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Has anyone else noticed that the enemy soldiers have blue blood?

If you look closely on the gameplay trailer you can clearly see soldiers have blue blood.

Here are some shots.




In case anyone remembers, the Dengeki Special Edition Trailer of Final Fantasy XV (back when it was Final Fantasy Versus XIII) depicted red blood when Noctis attacked the soldiers.



I have two theories.

1. They decided to tone down the violence.

2. The soldiers are not actually humans. Evidence of this could be how they keep attacking Noctis even though Leviathan is destroying the hell out of the city they're in. Also, they are positioned in extremely hazardous places.

What do you guys think?

Also, how did OP get those beautiful HD shots? Is there a 1080p trailer download link somewhere? 1080p on YouTube does not look nearly as good...
 

Casval

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I've never thought the blue was blood. It looks more like aura emitted from Noctis's weapons.

Erren (Kagari) once posted a link to the original 1080p trailer, but I can't retrieve it now.
 
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It does seem to be blue blood that they're bleeding. There's even more evidence that seems to show that the soldiers aren't human. If you look at around 1:57 in the gameplay trailer, you can see that one of the soldiers near where Glad is standing actually "pops" after being slain.

It's not an aura produced from Noctis' weapons, either. The behemoth in the same trailer bleeds red, and the iron giant that Noctis attacks doesn't produce this blood at all.
 

masterlobo

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#26
I've never thought the blue was blood. It looks more like aura emitted from Noctis's weapons.

Erren (Kagari) once posted a link to the original 1080p trailer, but I can't retrieve it now.
I found further evidence that soldiers have blue blood in addition to Death Penalty's post.

On the announcement trailer we can clearly see how a soldier's blue blood comes out when Prompto shoots him.

Either there's something going on or Prompto's bullets produce the blue aura as well.


Also, on the gameplay trailer, around 1:27 we can see Gladiolus slashing a soldier and blue blood also comes out! Curiously though, Prompto's gunshot this time doesn't cause blue blood.
 
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Yeah, it seems pretty cut and dry. I don't believe the Niflheim soldiers are human at all. That leads us to the question of where the army got them? Perhaps this is one of the reasons for them stealing the crystals and these inhuman soldiers- as well as the monster ones- are a result of its power. In the older 2011 gameplay trailer, we saw the imps accompanying the Niflheim soldiers burst into crystal shards when they were defeated, after all.
 
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masterlobo

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It does seem to be blue blood that they're bleeding. There's even more evidence that seems to show that the soldiers aren't human. If you look at around 1:57 in the gameplay trailer, you can see that one of the soldiers near where Glad is standing actually "pops" after being slain.

It's not an aura produced from Noctis' weapons, either. The behemoth in the same trailer bleeds red, and the iron giant that Noctis attacks doesn't produce this blood at all.
Here are some screens of the soldier despawning when killed that you mentioned.

To those who have trouble seeing it, pay attention to where Galdiolus is standing (close to him).




















Sorry, a .gif would probably illustrate it better but I lack the skills/tools to do such thing.

Also, as a bonus...some soldier corpses are lying around though...
(by the stairs)
 
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Keriaku

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What this makes me think is it's from Noctis' perspective, since he can see the 'light of expiring souls'. With that in mind, this seems to be the typical type of 'soul' substance Final Fantasy worlds have, such as the pyreflies that appear when monsters die in FFX. The blue blood is still a mystery, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was a realistic type visual for aetheric damage (especially sinces souls seem to be blue as well).
 
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What this makes me think is it's from Noctis' perspective, since he can see the 'light of expiring souls'. With that in mind, this seems to be the typical type of 'soul' substance Final Fantasy worlds have, such as the pyreflies that appear when monsters die in FFX. The blue blood is still a mystery, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was a realistic type visual for aetheric damage (especially sinces souls seem to be blue as well).
These are all good thoughts but please remember that the Behemoth when struck bleeds red. This means that the soldiers' blue blood is actually blue blood, and not some sort of effect from Noctis' weapons or abilities. We don't see Noctis slay any other foes besides these soldiers, sadly, so the whole exploding thing can't really be proven one way or another. However, I maintain that this is likely for the same reason the soldiers bleed blue blood. That is to say, they aren't human.

In an earlier trailer, when an imp-like monster was slain, it exploded into what seemed to be crystal shards. If the same death animation is preserved for XV, then the way the soldiers burst is a whole lot different. My theory for the imps was that they were summoned creatures, as the crystal shards and the burst of light are clear signs of magical origin. For the soldiers, it's hard to say. Worth noting, however, was that they bled red when they were first revealed in that long long ago trailer where Noctis slaughtered a group of them in CGI. It's also worth noting that in the 2011 gameplay trailer, the soldiers popped when they were slain as well. It was a much less exaggerated animation, though, and I didn't pay it any mind as I thought it was a simple despawning animation to get the bodies off the screen.
 
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Photo-shopped. And it's really well-done. The lighting is certainly not perfect when you examine light sources and the relative angle of light on the characters, but there's probably not much one could have done with that. Really good rendering of the stock CGI image. Props to the maker.

The background (I presume is in the palace) really reminds me of a more grandiose and gothic version of my old secondary school's chapel (all students had to attend the chapel services three times a week). I can just picture the five of them walking out on the sermon and I wouldn't blame them. xD
 
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Anyone notice that the behemoths seem to have mechanical devices implanted in them? Shown here:


Odds seem pretty good that this is how Niflheim is controlling the behemoths and perhaps their other monster soldiers as well. As you watch the trailer, you can see that the striped behemoth's machines crackle and flare with energy that I assume is magical. Machines produced by the stolen crystals, or pure works of science? Interestingly, behemoths without stripes seem to have embedded machines that don't glow, making me wonder why the striped behemoth's are in the first place. Has it sustained damage, or has it activated as some sort of booster for the behemoth? Are the striped behemoths special in some way?

An example of a behemoth without stripes and its latent device:


I'm not seeing machinery like this in the iron giants, but I'll take a closer look down the line. It might just be hard to see since the iron giants themselves are made of metal, or they might not require them for some other reason. Thoughts?

Edit: Forgot to mention that if you watch the trailer, you can see that Noctis' reticule targets these as one of the attackable points on the behemoth. If it's a control device, the repercussions of destroying it seem both obvious and hilarious.
 
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Ehren

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Ahhh, hmm. I forgot to mention this last night, DP, but in the shots you took the "striped" behemoth's eyes are fully blank white while the regular behemoth has yellow irises with catlike slit pupils.
 
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somni

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That's a pretty nice catch Death. XV having a war/political story as a backdrop, it makes a lot of sense for armies to subjugate powerful wild creatures for offensive or defensive purposes.
It's a pretty interesting way to showcase classic FF staples within the "fantasy based on reality" model. Being a more realistic setting, a creature like behemoth wouldn't just being prowling the streets of a populated city like past FF's.

Maybe even of more creature type enemies will be modified or engineered. The iron giants seem like they're are less likely to be random wilderness enemies, and more in line with Niflheim ranks, but that's just my theory. It seems the same logic will apply to more significant creatures like summons. Being XV's equivalent to weapons of mass destruction in a war scenario. Having a lot in common thematically with Type-0, it's clear why Hajime Tabata is co-directing.


From the TGS 2010 & 1st PDP trailers. These version of the behemoth have different, larger sort of contraptions latch onto their backs. One seems to be bladed wings and the other resemble the engine device on Noctis' weapons. Although they may or may not have been scrapped in favor of these.