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It's happening? A FFVII Remake is happening?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 66.7%
  • No

    Votes: 6 33.3%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .

SerjAngelo

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Now the question is if the game mantain a locked 60fps or will hover around at inconsistent 50fps-60fps. That said, if a launch title can handle 4k60fps then I have high hopes of FF7R Part 2 being a 60fps game.
I don't think SM will deliver [email protected] fps. It will be toggle between [email protected] and 1080p (maybe higher)@60 most likely.
Besides, Miles' game seems to be using a modified engine of the first game, not a pure next gen tech, so it all remains to be seen. I would bet on SE to go for graphical fidelity and sacrifice the framerate. Especially if they make part 2 a full-fledged open world.

EDIT: upon research, turns out they indeed market this as a [email protected] option. Interesting, what sacrifices they're going to make in that case - on the framerate's stability or visual quality.
 
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Ikkin

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Oct 30, 2016
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EDIT: upon research, turns out they indeed market this as a [email protected] option. Interesting, what sacrifices they're going to make in that case - on the framerate's stability or visual quality.
The most obvious solution is native 4k vs. temporally-upscaled 1440p or checkerboarded 4k. I'd gladly take either of those at 60fps over native at 4k, and I'm not even particularly concerned with frame rates. XD
 

Bazztek

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May 26, 2014
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I really don't like the sound of this. What's the point of calling it Final Fantasy VII Remake when it really isn't a remake, but a sequel? The excuses they made for why they did what they did for Part 1 just don't make any sense given what the game ended up being and what they're now saying prior to Part 2.

Some of the 7R staff talked about some cut content things, for example Roche was supposed to appear in Chapter 14 but got cut, and Toriyama hinted that it's very likely he'll be in 7R Part 2, in addition also mentioned that the secret Avalanche base under 7th heaven was cut because "Cloud isn't really close with Avalanche".
 
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Noctis_Caelum

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Jul 15, 2014
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Eh im sorry but to me it doesn't make sense why the under base of 7th Heaven was cut. Can someone explain me? xD

Also really disappointing that they didn't make the game for mature people.

Otherwise I'm glad and excited for the second part, but also sceptical about the changes they will do.
 

Jenova

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Oct 28, 2013
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So they will have an idea of how many games the whole Remake will be once Part II is officially revealed? I'm guessing between 3-4 games total considering all they are trying to fit into this retelling. I expect the most controversial aspects of the game to ramp up in the later installments. It really seems like something the dev team is committed to so I don't see a lot of the Whispers elements being cut.
 

CEOofMGN

Stiltzkin's Apprentice
Aug 14, 2018
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If they can't even just say it's gonna be 2 parts right now, then it's very likely it will be more than 2 parts, which people already assumed but people also still held out hope that it'd only be 2 parts.
Bazztek the clown strikes again...

Nobody expected this to be two-parts so stop spreading nonsense. Save that for your twitter in which everyday you are salty about the success of FFVIIR (fastest selling FF game in USA despite being only on one platform and with a lethal virus out in the world, comfortably outselling FFXV and having best reception from FFXV).
 

Lulcielid

Warrior of Light
Oct 9, 2014
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Bazztek the clown strikes again...

Nobody expected this to be two-parts so stop spreading nonsense. Save that for your twitter in which everyday you are salty about the success of FFVIIR (fastest selling FF game in USA despite being only on one platform and with a lethal virus out in the world, comfortably outselling FFXV and having best reception from FFXV).
Nobody expected in 2015 that the Remake would be divided into parts either, expecting the project to be two installment is ok until Square says otherwise.
 

Ikkin

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Oct 30, 2016
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Bazztek the clown strikes again...

Nobody expected this to be two-parts so stop spreading nonsense. Save that for your twitter in which everyday you are salty about the success of FFVIIR (fastest selling FF game in USA despite being only on one platform and with a lethal virus out in the world, comfortably outselling FFXV and having best reception from FFXV).
VIIR didn't outsell XV worldwide, though. Squenix hasn't provided a sales update on it since the 3.5 mil figure in April. XV sold 5 mil week one and 6 mil within about a month. If VIIR had practically doubled in sales, we would have heard about it.

As for the virus, the game industry considers it to increase rather than decrease sales because it increases free time and routes practically all entertainment spending (which otherwise could have been spent on movies, concerts, sports, and vacations) into gaming.

Anyway, my suspicion is that VIIR sold on VII's reputation, which is massive in JP and NA, less massive in EU, and practically non-existent in other markets. XV, in contrast, promoted itself on its own merits and made significant overtures towards relatively new markets like Russia (a full dub!) and China (a special edit to appease the censors).

One market I'm particularly curious about is the Middle East, which was clearly okay with XV -- IIRC, the first leaked copy was from Dubai -- but may have been less thrilled with VIIR's, shall we say, gender politics.
 

Skye

Red Wings Commander
Sep 26, 2013
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Bazztek the clown strikes again...

Nobody expected this to be two-parts so stop spreading nonsense. Save that for your twitter in which everyday you are salty about the success of FFVIIR (fastest selling FF game in USA despite being only on one platform and with a lethal virus out in the world, comfortably outselling FFXV and having best reception from FFXV).
I disagree with @Bazztek in almost everything. But I really don't like name calling, I like this forums to have disagreements without disrespecting with one and another.
 

Bazztek

Keyblade Master
May 26, 2014
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Bazztek the clown strikes again...

Nobody expected this to be two-parts so stop spreading nonsense. Save that for your twitter in which everyday you are salty about the success of FFVIIR (fastest selling FF game in USA despite being only on one platform and with a lethal virus out in the world, comfortably outselling FFXV and having best reception from FFXV).
Hey aren't you posting from an alternate account?

What does people saying they hoped FF7R came out in as few parts as possible, like 2 parts, which is a frequent sentiment commonly held by many have to do with you being angry about twitter posts pointing out FF7R sold less than FFXV worldwide?

You do realize that FFXV sold more worldwide than FF7R did, right? Why are you acting as if sales in the launch month in the US only is the defining factor for sales, when FFXV sold more total than FF7R in every region and worldwide too?

FF7R being on one platform is irrelevant when the PS4 has a higher install-base (110m sold in 2020) than PS4 and XB1 did combined in 2016 (PS4 50m and XB1 26m by Jan 2017), and COVID-19 has actively helped to boost the sales of video games across the industry, various franchises reaching all time high video games sales as a result, just look at Animal Crossing for example which is STILL selling, and COVID-19 helping to boost video game sales across the industry is a direct reason why FF7R had a boost in DIGITAL sales, while its physical sales didn't reach what FFXV has. FF7R physical sales didn't beat XV in any region, and its only with the COVID-19 digital sales boost that in the US launch period it even managed to, of which it still hasn't sold more total than XV, so I'm not sure why it even matters at all? Nevermind that the figure you are clinging to is for the 30 day launch window period in the US only, not around the world or in other regions, let alone it's not even the total sales in the US itself.

If you even just look at the weekly sales reports for FF7R vs FFXV in Japan you can see even weekly FF7R is selling less than FFXV is, and FF7R's price has been cut way lower than whatever FFXV's price was in Japan in the same timespan from launch. In the UK FF7R sold HALF of what FFXV did at launch too, why are you acting as if the US is the only place that matters? Quite telling.



In 3 days FF7R shipped 3.5m worldwide, its now been 3 months and SE has not given an updated figure, if 7R had hit a new milestone figure then SE would've reported it by now, the fact that they havn't means it hasn't, meanwhile FFXV shipped 5m on day 1, and after 1 month had an additional shipment of 1 million for a total of 6m shipped by its 2nd month, which SE reported, and they kept giving updates every few months.

https://press.na.square-enix.com/FI...SHIPMENT-AND-DIGITAL-SALES-EXCEED-FIVE-MILLIO

https://press.na.square-enix.com/FI...NT-AND-DIGITAL-SALES-EXCEED-SIX-MILLION-UNITS


https://press.na.square-enix.com/FI...SHIPMENTS-AND-DIGITAL-SALES-SURPASS-35-MILLIO



And if you have to cling to reviews (LMAO) in some desperate attempt to argue which games is better than another, you already show how weak your argument is to begin with and that you shouldn't be taken seriously.

Sounds to me more like you're salty FF7R sold less than FFXV despite having all the means to outsell it, as FFXV remains the fastest selling FF worldwide, which it still very much is to this day, and at the rate it has sold it still will be for another 2 years even if it doesn't sell a single copy from here on out.
 
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Ikkin

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If you even just look at the weekly sales reports for FF7R vs FFXV in Japan you can see even weekly FF7R is selling less than FFXV is, and FF7R's price has been cut way lower than whatever FFXV's price was in Japan in the same timespan from launch. In the UK FF7R sold HALF of what FFXV did at launch too, why are you acting as if the US is the only place that matters? Quite telling.

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I hadn't seen these numbers, but that's strongly suggestive of something that I already suspected -- it seems like FFVIIR behaved like a short-tail event game, while FFXV had quite a long tail. XV will likely double its first week sales the moment a next-gen port is released (it's at 9mil already); it seems rather unlikely that VIIR will do the same.
 

Bazztek

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May 26, 2014
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I hadn't seen these numbers, but that's strongly suggestive of something that I already suspected -- it seems like FFVIIR behaved like a short-tail event game, while FFXV had quite a long tail. XV will likely double its first week sales the moment a next-gen port is released (it's at 9mil already); it seems rather unlikely that VIIR will do the same.
Yeah, I figured that FF7R should have hit at least 4 million by now, but not even SE has said that so it's doubtful it even has, and until they give an updated figure all we can say is 7R is at 3.5m shipped+digital sales. XV had some great legs while 7R's sales seemingly practically dropped off the face of the earth. Even when comparing the current timespans from release for the 2, we're still within the period before any of the XV DLC even came out, as Episode Gladio came out 4 months after XV released, so it's not like it even had any boost from DLC helping it either at its current point of comparison to 7R.
 
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CEOofMGN

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Yeah, I figured that FF7R should have hit at least 4 million by now, but not even SE has said that so it's doubtful it even has, and until they give an updated figure all we can say is 7R is at 3.5m shipped+digital sales. XV had some great legs while 7R's sales seemingly practically dropped off the face of the earth. Even when comparing the current timespans from release for the 2, we're still within the period before any of the XV DLC even came out, as Episode Gladio came out 4 months after XV released, so it's not like it even had any boost from DLC helping it either at its current point of comparison to 7R.
Lol what a bunch of jokes (you honor your name Bazztek the Clown) and lies you wrote on your previous that i am not gonna repost because i hate speading lies. But i will answer to your lies.

Nobody expected FFVIIR to be two parts when they revealed their multi-part plan. Otherwise they would have said that the the game is two-part and not multi-part. You don't have to be very smart to think that btw...

We don't know if FFVIIR sold more worldwide than FFXV. We know that it destroyed FFXV in USA which is the biggest FF market worldwide. The 5m you toss around for FFXV is the shipment and we all know that the game was way overshipped because there were massive price cuts all over the world a month after it's release. I can still find Day One copies in every shop i look lol.

Oh it seems that FFVIIR broke another milestone, not only for FF but for a Square Enix game.

https://toyokeizai.net/articles/amp/364408

According to Matsuda, FFVIIR is the fastest selling game digitally in the history of Square Enix. He also said that the game sold very good digitally in Europe so BOOM your previous post for half sales of FFXV in UK just went straight to the garbage bin.

Another one of your lies is that FFXV sells better than FFVIIR in Japan. Here is the proof that you are telling lies

FFVIIR Amazon page
https://www.amazon.co.jp/ファイナルファンタジ...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=6B5V5P656MBFTJ85Q7S5

FFXV Amazon page
https://www.amazon.co.jp/FANTASY-Ex...fantasy+xv&qid=1595503723&s=videogames&sr=1-1

Seeing the trajectory price page of Amazon, you can see that while FFVIIR still sells for it's original price, in the same timeframe FFXV was sold for -30% of it's original price. Aside that, FFXV was selling through holiday period WITH a price cut so obviously it should have sold way more than FFXV (as a new mainline entry) but despite all that it barely manages to outsell FFVIIR which didn't have any price cut and Christmas (the busiest holiday in Japan for videogames). Truly pathetic for FFXV because i still remember that articles where you could find the game in bomba bins in Japan, a month after it's release. Btw, my friend bought it for 3980 Yen brand new a month after it's release...

Speaking of the actual game, FFVIIR is a superior game compared to FFXV according to the majority, leaving aside the reviews (which still were higher for FFVIIR). This isn't just a personal opinion but also a fact. Just check any forum and user impressions worldwide and you will see that people enjoyed most FFVIIR. If you deny this or don't see this either you are a) delusional b) blind c) desperate Tabata fangirl (cough) or d) all the options. You may have enjoyed FFXV more for whatever reason but you are sure in the minority.

Saying that FFXV shipped 5m, 7m, 9m is totally irrelevant when the game is available in every platform possible(even phones lol) and has been on the market for nearly 4 years, when the other game is available only on one platform for barely 3 months. Let's compare FFVIIR numbers in 4 years again if you want a fair comparison. If we compare the first three months FFVIIR outsells FFXV in every region and market of the world. The game sold MORE than 3.5m in three days, is the fastest digitally selling game in the history of SE, is the fastest FF game in USA and you must be an idiot to think that the game haven't sold more than 3.5 copies, when it's still charting in NPD, PSN top rankings, Media Create etc. I suspect that SE will announce a new milestone this year and the reason why they haven't done it yet is because they want to accompany it with some announcement, or wait for a shareholder meeting because of stocks and logistics and when they will announce the new milestone it will be more than 6m+. Also, don't forget that the reason why they were announcing new milestones for FFXV often was because the game was underperforming sales wise, so they were stuffing channels and they were desperate for a big hit in that period.

Look, i know that you are salty that FFVIIR destroyed FFXV in every way possible. You are a Nomura hater and a Tabata fan. But that's not a reason to turn every discussion in a grudge match when someone says something positive about FFVIIR and something negative about FFXV. You were banned in ResetERA for that reason, i don't know why they are still keeping you here (maybe because as a clown you make people laugh?) but just try to be objective and to not lose your sleep over the success of FFVIIR. I won't bother replying you back again because i don't think you will listen to a different opinion so you are going straight to my ignore list.

Peace!
 

Bazztek

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May 26, 2014
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Lol what a bunch of jokes (you honor your name Bazztek the Clown) and lies you wrote on your previous that i am not gonna repost because i hate speading lies. But i will answer to your lies.

Nobody expected FFVIIR to be two parts when they revealed their multi-part plan. Otherwise they would have said that the the game is two-part and not multi-part. You don't have to be very smart to think that btw...

We don't know if FFVIIR sold more worldwide than FFXV. We know that it destroyed FFXV in USA which is the biggest FF market worldwide. The 5m you toss around for FFXV is the shipment and we all know that the game was way overshipped because there were massive price cuts all over the world a month after it's release. I can still find Day One copies in every shop i look lol.

Oh it seems that FFVIIR broke another milestone, not only for FF but for a Square Enix game.

https://toyokeizai.net/articles/amp/364408

According to Matsuda, FFVIIR is the fastest selling game digitally in the history of Square Enix. He also said that the game sold very good digitally in Europe so BOOM your previous post for half sales of FFXV in UK just went straight to the garbage bin.

Another one of your lies is that FFXV sells better than FFVIIR in Japan. Here is the proof that you are telling lies

FFVIIR Amazon page
https://www.amazon.co.jp/ファイナルファンタジーVII_リメイク/dp/B07SFY368H/ref=zg_bs_videogames_74?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=6B5V5P656MBFTJ85Q7S5

FFXV Amazon page
https://www.amazon.co.jp/FANTASY-Ex...fantasy+xv&qid=1595503723&s=videogames&sr=1-1

Seeing the trajectory price page of Amazon, you can see that while FFVIIR still sells for it's original price, in the same timeframe FFXV was sold for -30% of it's original price. Aside that, FFXV was selling through holiday period WITH a price cut so obviously it should have sold way more than FFXV (as a new mainline entry) but despite all that it barely manages to outsell FFVIIR which didn't have any price cut and Christmas (the busiest holiday in Japan for videogames). Truly pathetic for FFXV because i still remember that articles where you could find the game in bomba bins in Japan, a month after it's release. Btw, my friend bought it for 3980 Yen brand new a month after it's release...

Speaking of the actual game, FFVIIR is a superior game compared to FFXV according to the majority, leaving aside the reviews (which still were higher for FFVIIR). This isn't just a personal opinion but also a fact. Just check any forum and user impressions worldwide and you will see that people enjoyed most FFVIIR. If you deny this or don't see this either you are a) delusional b) blind c) desperate Tabata fangirl (cough) or d) all the options. You may have enjoyed FFXV more for whatever reason but you are sure in the minority.

Saying that FFXV shipped 5m, 7m, 9m is totally irrelevant when the game is available in every platform possible(even phones lol) and has been on the market for nearly 4 years, when the other game is available only on one platform for barely 3 months. Let's compare FFVIIR numbers in 4 years again if you want a fair comparison. If we compare the first three months FFVIIR outsells FFXV in every region and market of the world. The game sold MORE than 3.5m in three days, is the fastest digitally selling game in the history of SE, is the fastest FF game in USA and you must be an idiot to think that the game haven't sold more than 3.5 copies, when it's still charting in NPD, PSN top rankings, Media Create etc. I suspect that SE will announce a new milestone this year and the reason why they haven't done it yet is because they want to accompany it with some announcement, or wait for a shareholder meeting because of stocks and logistics and when they will announce the new milestone it will be more than 6m+. Also, don't forget that the reason why they were announcing new milestones for FFXV often was because the game was underperforming sales wise, so they were stuffing channels and they were desperate for a big hit in that period.

Look, i know that you are salty that FFVIIR destroyed FFXV in every way possible. You are a Nomura hater and a Tabata fan. But that's not a reason to turn every discussion in a grudge match when someone says something positive about FFVIIR and something negative about FFXV. You were banned in ResetERA for that reason, i don't know why they are still keeping you here (maybe because as a clown you make people laugh?) but just try to be objective and to not lose your sleep over the success of FFVIIR. I won't bother replying you back again because i don't think you will listen to a different opinion so you are going straight to my ignore list.

Peace!
LOL

You do realize that 2 parts is in fact still multi part, right? You do know that? Multi part, multiple parts, 2 is multiple. Bruh, are you even real right now?

I didn't post any lies, in fact I countered your skewed and oddly selective regional statistics that only specificy the LAUNCH period in the US ONLY, while what I showed you was the actual full worldwide figures given by SE which for some reason you still seem to think doesn't count.

FF7R shipped+digital sales 3.5m in 3 days, XV on day 1 had 5m shipped+digital sales and after 1 month had 6m shipped+digital sales, I don't know why you are in denial about this.





There is not a single copy of launch XV in retail stores anymore and hasn't been for years, I don't know why you need to desperately lie like this, if you actually did your research you would know all base game versions of FFXV are called "Day One Edition" including any of the new shipments made after launch, which again, and that is a common thing SE does for their base game versions, even Dragon Quest, Nier Automata and Tomb Raider have the same thing too, additionally XV's price point was still full price months after launch, and even in Japan with random sales FF7R's price is lower than FFXV's price when comparing the same time periods from release, so you are just destroying your own argument here, and 7R's price is already lowered in all regions too, so I'm not sure what you are even trying to argue here because you are factually and objectively wrong.

You also do realize that FF7R 3.5m is SHIPPED+digital sales, right? Of which it sold much less than FFXV, where FFXV had near sold out its 5m shipment from launch which is why an additional 1 million was shipped out 1 month later, which SE reported, right? The only reason why an additional 1 million was shipped out for FFXV's initial 5m figure is because retailers needed stock, requested stock to SE, and SE shipped out more stock to them because they had either ran out or were running out, because the game kept selling, whereas FF7R sales have practically dried up.

LMAO the milestone is talking about digital sales % in comparison to its own physical sales, in that 40-50% of FF7R's sales were digital, he is still talking about it from WITHIN that 3.5 shipped+digital sales figure, that still doesn't mean anything IN COMPARISON TO OTHER GAMES TOTAL SALES. BRUH LMAO


Bruh, your proof is, Amazon store pages? Which aren't even proof of anything?

I linked actual Famitsu sales data tracking Japanese retail sales, you are in denial.


FFXV by its 13th week in Japan had sold 950, 659 physical units
FF7R by its 13th week in Japan had sold 932, 821 physical units

I don't know why you are ignoring objective facts, seeing as you actually think just linking a Japanese Amazon store page and something thinking that has anything to do with sales data. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Nevermind that you are trying to compare the current price of FFXV 3 and 1/5 years after release in Japan compared to FF7R's current price in Japan 3 months after release, when what you should be doing is comparing it to FFXV's price 3 months after release.

Here is some retail stores for FF7R's price

FF7R in May 2020 had its price down to 5,500円


FF7R in July 2020 now 2,750円


Btw here is a store selling FFXV in February 2020 at 8,700円


7R not only has had much bigger price cuts than XV ever had, it had them much sooner than XV ever had too.

"According to the majority"
Who is the "majority" Why are you clinging to them instead of having your own arguments? Is it because you have no actual argument and thus have to cling to the random opinions of strangers? I see way more people shitting on 7R than I do XV and agreeing that XV is the better game, my anecdotal evidence just as easily counters yours.


FFXV available on every platform?

FFXV hit 6 million after 1 month, when it was only on PS4 and XB1, which had only sold 50 million for PS4 and 26m for XB1 at that time, in comparison in 2020 PS4 had sold over 110 million when FF7R released, which is a higher install-base than FFXV had with PS4 and XB1 COMBINED when it launched, so not only does it being on multiple platforms be a complete irrelevant fact, but the fact that it sold more on a lower install base in 1 month than 7R has managed only shows how ignorant to facts you actually are.

I never even compared 7R's current numbers to FFXV's total worldwide numbers, I compared 7R's total US figures to XV's total US, of which again XV is still the highest selling total in the US, 7R only had a higher launch, which is frankly meaningless, and if that's the only thing you can tout then its ironic seeing as you ignore FFXV had a higher launch in the UK, Japan, and evidently many other regions given that FFXV sold more than FF7R did on a worldwide scale anyway.

FF7R has not sold more than 3.5m, its shipped figure combined with its digital sales is 3.5m, which naturally includes any physical sales within that shipped figure, but that actual physical sales would be lower anyway, so no 7R did not sell more than 3.5m it sold less than 3.5m, and it still isn't near FFXVs worldwide launch figure or even what it was at 1 month after launch.

XV is literally ahead of 7R's sales using Famitsu sales data, since MediaCreate no longer publicly posts actual sales data, they only post rankings with no sales data whatsoever, and again, literally using the Japanese sales data FFXV is ahead of FF7R, I don't know why you are still in denial about this.

There has already been a shareholders meeting since FF7R released and SE gave no update whatsoever on FF7R's sales. Seriously dude, you are delusional, FFXV is the fastest selling FF ever, which it has been since it launched and still is to this day.


Look man I get that you are mad that FFXV destroyed FF7R's sales and is a superior game that performed much better, and that you're a salty Nomura stan who is still mad that FFXV became a better game ever since Nomura was taken off the game, but dude you need to actually do some research because nothing you have said at all has backed up anything you have said. I don't know what me being banned from Resetera has to do with anything, as if people don't get banned there just for breathing, but aren't you the one using mutliple alternate accounts here.
 
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Skye

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So what if XV sold more than VIIRI? tbh I only care about the story telling quality of the story not the quantity, VIIR does in fact has more story quality than XV (That's just my opinion). Final Fantasy X tops them all in my opinion. I know that Bazztek is a Tabata/Luminous Productions-Biased, let him talk freely whatever he wants as long as he does not spread hate. I really don't want to spread hate in the Final Fantasy Community, even though I disagree bazztek, but I respect his views. People have different opinions in the community, Nomura fans, Toriyama fans, Tabata fans, pre-FFVII fans etc. Let's all rejoice and move on!
 

T.O.T

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So what if XV sold more than VIIRI? tbh I only care about the story telling quality of the story not the quantity, VIIR does in fact has more story quality than XV (That's just my opinion). Final Fantasy X tops them all in my opinion. I know that Bazztek is a Tabata/Luminous Productions-Biased, let him talk freely whatever he wants as long as he does not spread hate. I really don't want to spread hate in the Final Fantasy Community, even though I disagree bazztek, but I respect his views. People have different opinions in the community, Nomura fans, Toriyama fans, Tabata fans, pre-FFVII fans etc. Let's all rejoice and move on!
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