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It would've broken people's minds.
In-game, there are only four messengers extant - "Gentiana" (she is a puzzle, but then nearly everything lore-based in this game is), Umbra and Pryna, and Carbunbcle. Garuda was added in a DLC quest.
As to the rest.... Well, there's another localization difference. And since that's dropped in an episode designed to give out lore, I doubt it'd be just window dressing. As seen with Garuda (which seems to be treated as canon of a kind), the messengers didn't necessarily die, but more likely fell into a very deep sleep like the Astrals do until Luna wakes them.
In-game, there are only four messengers extant - "Gentiana" (she is a puzzle, but then nearly everything lore-based in this game is), Umbra and Pryna, and Carbunbcle. Garuda was added in a DLC quest.
As to the rest.... Well, there's another localization difference. And since that's dropped in an episode designed to give out lore, I doubt it'd be just window dressing. As seen with Garuda (which seems to be treated as canon of a kind), the messengers didn't necessarily die, but more likely fell into a very deep sleep like the Astrals do until Luna wakes them.
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I dont think it was meant to lead to anything other than showing that Ardyn and Aera casually meet each other in the shadows, also Aera likes archeology.
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I assumed the ruins were built by Solheim at some point, but that's just conjecture given that they're the only ancient civilisation we have knowledge about in XV. Unless there's an even older civilisation, probably whatever existed before the rise of Solheim and it's technology.
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It doesn't matter which you wanted more, at the end of the day if you thought it would have made more sense for us to get Somnus's outfit for completing Episode Ardyn then I don't think you had very realistic expectations.
As for the Naglfar, perhaps the daemons were working for Ifrit and the messengers that died to it were still on the other Astrals' side? There's some other dialogue to contradict that but hey who knows.
Episode Ardyn is definitely bigger than RE. The underground area is definitely smaller compared to all of the newly opened streets and rooftops. There may be less going on in the city in Episode Ardyn but in terms of explorable area it's at least comparable.
As for the Naglfar, perhaps the daemons were working for Ifrit and the messengers that died to it were still on the other Astrals' side? There's some other dialogue to contradict that but hey who knows.
Episode Ardyn is definitely bigger than RE. The underground area is definitely smaller compared to all of the newly opened streets and rooftops. There may be less going on in the city in Episode Ardyn but in terms of explorable area it's at least comparable.
Yeah but that's just vertically episode Ardyn is just a box.
All the cutscenes with Aera and Somnus I assume exist just to show you where Ardyn's mind is.
Now, he did accidentally turn her into a daemon in that one scene right. And that's why she had to be killed before becoming one. Did he do this by accident or was it subconsciously?
All the cutscenes with Aera and Somnus I assume exist just to show you where Ardyn's mind is.
Now, he did accidentally turn her into a daemon in that one scene right. And that's why she had to be killed before becoming one. Did he do this by accident or was it subconsciously?
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A slight correction as to the number of Messengers remaining at the time of FFXV: we know of at least five living messengers (Umbra, Pryna, Gentiana, Carbuncle, Avatara) and one "dead"-but-revived messenger (Garuda). Bismark is never said to be a Messenger directly, but he is given sufficient divine mystique to make it a possibility. Episode Ardyn suggests yet another potential living Messenger -- the "Dragon of Taelpar" who Verstael connects with a legend in which Bahamut guarded Somnus with "his dragon at his side." All in all, we could know of up to eight Messengers, seven of whom were alive at the time the game began.
...come to think of it, perhaps the "Dragon of Taelpar" is Enkidu?
Anyway, the idea of Bahamut pulling a Somnus and intentionally manipulating things to make Ifrit go rogue is absolutely out of line with the themes of the game proper, and I would absolutely write such a development off as pure AU if they attempted to foist it on us. >_<
Actually, I'm not sure we're meant to see hallucination!Aera as having been accidentally turned into a daemon. Her dialogue makes it sound more like she was cursed by the gods for defying them than that she had somehow become infected.
I'm inclined to think of hallucination!Aera and hallucination!Somnus as two parts of Ardyn himself rather than as true representations of Aera and Somnus. Hallucination!Aera reflects Ardyn the healer, as presented by the Scourge -- she represents Ardyn's suffering, his feeling of being cursed by the gods, his continued willingness for self-sacrifice, and his desire for death, but doing as she asks will leave Ardyn bereft of all of his innate goodness (hence his unwillingness to obey). Hallucination!Somnus, in contrast, reflects Ardyn as Adagium -- there's a reason why his demeanor is almost identical to Ardyn in his cruelest moments in the game. By killing hallucination!Aera, hallucination!Somnus forces the transformation from Prologue Ardyn to game Ardyn.
...come to think of it, perhaps the "Dragon of Taelpar" is Enkidu?
Anyway, the idea of Bahamut pulling a Somnus and intentionally manipulating things to make Ifrit go rogue is absolutely out of line with the themes of the game proper, and I would absolutely write such a development off as pure AU if they attempted to foist it on us. >_<
Actually, I'm not sure we're meant to see hallucination!Aera as having been accidentally turned into a daemon. Her dialogue makes it sound more like she was cursed by the gods for defying them than that she had somehow become infected.
I'm inclined to think of hallucination!Aera and hallucination!Somnus as two parts of Ardyn himself rather than as true representations of Aera and Somnus. Hallucination!Aera reflects Ardyn the healer, as presented by the Scourge -- she represents Ardyn's suffering, his feeling of being cursed by the gods, his continued willingness for self-sacrifice, and his desire for death, but doing as she asks will leave Ardyn bereft of all of his innate goodness (hence his unwillingness to obey). Hallucination!Somnus, in contrast, reflects Ardyn as Adagium -- there's a reason why his demeanor is almost identical to Ardyn in his cruelest moments in the game. By killing hallucination!Aera, hallucination!Somnus forces the transformation from Prologue Ardyn to game Ardyn.
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I've made YT playlist with EP Ardyn soundtrack (with all unreleased tracks included, there is only one still missing but im going to add it as soon as it will be on yt 
so enjoy!
Episode Ardyn Soundtrack playlist
so enjoy! Episode Ardyn Soundtrack playlist
I kind of feel that they will go with this 'modern' stuff again. But I have no idea who the protag will be. Maybe girl again?
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