Lightning Returns sells 277k first week in JP

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Storm

Warrior of Light
Oct 26, 2013
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#43
So when you said the last FF of each generation always sells less you were only basing it off two generations?
Yes, the last two generations started a trend (the first sells the most, and the last released the less), and by the results of LR it could be said it was the same with the PS3 generation.

But most people are staying. Only 2 million or so people have moved on, that leaves, what, ~77 million?
I don't know if the arrival of next-gen consoles is the only factor, but it can't be coincidence. IX, XII, and LR were released closer to the next-gen consoles, and both of them sold the worst in each generation. Maybe there's another reason, or multiple reasons to explain this.
 

Mark

Yevonite
Oct 6, 2013
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#44
Yes, the last two generations started a trend (the first sells the most, and the last released the less), and by the results of LR it could be said it was the same with the PS3 generation.
*sigh* You said it was always like that. That was a lie. And again, FFIII and VI contradict your claim that it's "always like that." They sold the most from their respective generations. Again, stop making baseless excuses. Two generations is not viable evidence, especially when there is another two generations that contradict you.

I don't know if the arrival of next-gen consoles is the only factor, but it can't be coincidence. IX, XII, and LR were released closer to the next-gen consoles, and both of them sold the worst in each generation.
There were only two mainline FF's in the PS2 era, one selling less than the other is not viable evidence. Those two generations had VII and X, two of the most popular games of all time.

Maybe there's another reason, or multiple reasons to explain this.
That's true, and one of them is that maybe people dislike the XIII series.
 
Sep 26, 2013
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#45
People need to stop getting so up in arms about opinions that differ from theirs the thread. I'm talking to both sides here. We've got folks who apparently need to ruin XIII for all the people who like it, and that's frankly childish. This is a fan community that is even specifically named after the compilation that contains the XIII saga in it. There are going to be people here who legitimately enjoy the XIII games in their entirety, and they are not wrong to. You might even say this is exactly the place for them, by its very construction. Anyone who comes in here seeking to bash the game just for the sake of ruining it for other people is a person that I truly pity, and a person who is undermining a Final Fantasy fandom that they most likely belong to even if not through love of the same titles. So somebody likes a game that you do not like; big deal, right? Live and let live, why would you feel the need to tear at them and their love just because it's different from yours? If you have something to say, by all means say it, but it doesn't have to get nasty, right?

Likewise, there are the diehard fans that really just need to take a breather when anything even slightly negative is said about Lightning or the XIII games. In the same way that you like these games, other people might not and their opinions might be pretty valid. Maybe the game is just not for them, for whatever reason. If an opinion is given and it isn't intended maliciously, is there really any need to take up weapons and start a war over it? The Final Fantasy fandom has more than enough room for all sorts of fans with all sorts of opinions, and chances are the person really likes something about Final Fantasy that you do too. We can disagree without hating each other, can't we?

LET'S ALL HOLD HANDS AND REMEMBER OUR MUTUAL LOVE. /endcheese

With that in mind, the sales numbers for Lightning Returns mean absolutely nothing, both to fans and those who are less than fans. Think of it in this simple way: the saga has reached its conclusion, the tale has been told. Those in love have gotten the story they were asking for, and the sales numbers of the final chapter will never change that. Likewise, those who just wanted to see the end of the saga so Final Fantasy can move on have now seen the end. The sales, at this stage, are just background noise.