Versus XIII/FNC/XV development - Destroying the 10 year myth - Lots of reading

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Storm

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don't get it, isn't shuya's translation basically the same of noctisx21 friend?

anyway, nice to see some insight into versus noctis.
 

Nova

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His translation made Noctis sound more like Squall 2.0 with the "lack of any sympathy" part.

While Shuya's is more like he was much more shy around different people than he is currently (not that doesn't lack it at all tho).

At least, while seemingly similar, its the context that matters to me most.
 

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I wish that were the case since the material itself is very interesting and excellent for genuine discussion

However given his history of director flaming and extreme negativity, I highly doubt it unfortunately.

Starting a conversation with "Tabata did change everything!" with material trying to back his perspective that Tabata changes are infinitely bad (as reinforced by his past posts), he's practically inviting people to jump on the hate bandwagon.
why should i bother telling you i`m not ok with this version of the game? you all know it from my past posts :-D
 
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So in the 7 years between 2006 - 2013 (when the re-reveal happened), Noctis went from "shy introvert only comfortable around his friends" to "slightly-less-shy introvert only comfortable around his friends". I forget - who was directing the project in these 7 years?
 
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So in the 7 years between 2006 - 2013 (when the re-reveal happened), Noctis went from "shy introvert only comfortable around his friends" to "slightly-less-shy introvert only comfortable around his friends". I forget - who was directing the project in these 7 years?
It dosent specify exactly when his character changed, we dont know if it was Nomuras doing or if he was changed under Tabatas era in the last few years of development.
 

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i was rewatching the first or second Versus XIII released trailer, and damn, its the only time we see noctis x stella at all; there's no scene with them about to fight in 2011, or 2013; and giving the popularity of this rivalism, i'd have expected a bit more of that in the later trailers; maybe one of the leaks was right and this plot point changed.
 

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i was rewatching the first or second Versus XIII released trailer, and damn, its the only time we see noctis x stella at all; there's no scene with them about to fight in 2011, or 2013; and giving the popularity of this rivalism, i'd have expected a bit more of that in the later trailers; maybe one of the leaks was right and this plot point changed.
The fight was removed after 2008 nomura said it was only a concept or something, there was an official interview with this ill see if I can find it.
 

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Since we know for sure that the story was changing every 3 months around 2013 with no defined plot, it wouldn't be too surprising.
 

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Tabata didnt change the entire script but he did modify and cut it heavily. As for the core concept of the game it is somewhat the same but alot of the stuff of the lore wasent used in game, like etro was actually going to be a character in versus and appear in game as well as stuff like "seeing the light of expiring souls", XV is much more simplified.
 

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Tabata didnt change the entire script but he did modify and cut it heavily. As for the core concept of the game it is somewhat the same but alot of the stuff of the lore wasent used in game, like etro was actually going to be a character in versus and appear in game as well as stuff like "seeing the light of expiring souls", XV is much more simplified.
Source for this?
 

llazy77

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Watch the 2009 trailer you can see Etro talking to Noctis there around the end, and I think the angel is etro here in these 4 chan leaks

Versus XIII plot: During the last part of the game, one of the villains (allegedly Ardyn) opened the gate to the other dimension/afterlife (which was called Versus). The villains wanted to enter Versus to kill an angel. Since Stella is a ghost, she would have been able to interact with every character in the afterlife world. After the final fight, the angel helped the protagonists come back to the living world but Noctis was too injured, so he ended up sleeping with Stella in the afterlife.
 

Storm

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Tabata didnt change the entire script but he did modify and cut it heavily. As for the core concept of the game it is somewhat the same but alot of the stuff of the lore wasent used in game, like etro was actually going to be a character in versus and appear in game as well as stuff like "seeing the light of expiring souls", XV is much more simplified.
summons weren't gods and important for the plot in Versus, it's not like Tabata cut things and didn't add others.

and you forget that XV's story is a simplified version of itself; just look at past XV trailers to see how many cutscenes were cut, if tabata had more time i'm almost sure they would make it into the game; tabata needed to wrap up all the mess but if development was normal he'll probably do a more story-driven game in the likes of nomura, he explicity told making the imsomnia invasion playable would cost time and that's why it didn't end up in the game.

you ppl want to make tabata's guilt of the lack of story but i think the real culprit here was the messy development, which for god's sake i hope something like that doesn't happen ever again.
 
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