[SPOILERS] KINGSGLAIVE: FINAL FANTASY XV - Discussion Thread

Members see less ads - sign up now for free and join the community!

  • This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn more.

Lulcielid

Warrior of Light
Oct 9, 2014
3,639
2,316
23
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Now that we got to see the Lucii Ring in action in Kingsglaive, I got a theory of what power it could give to Noctis gameplay-wise:

"Unlimited" Magic Power: this would translate to Noctis (and the player) no longer needing to draw magic, where it would only be limited by his MP pool and by how much magic he has stored in the inventory.
I thinking giving him more would be a bit overkill, balance-wise.
 

Storm

Warrior of Light
Oct 26, 2013
2,828
4,574
26
Actually, Nozue worked on Advent Children as co-director. @Storm
thanks for the correction; still not much experience, I think he did alright.

about the ring's power, I really hope is not limited by buffs. I want offensive magic.
 

Chocobocoholic

ShinRa SOLDIER
Mar 29, 2016
161
79
I forgot to mention her character in my post, so I'll just say something breifly here. One member on these forums in particular criticized her death saying that they "fridge'd" her character and somehow that has to do with her being female or something. Just in case you didn't watch the movie or something... pretty much EVERY Glaive dies, most of them being betrayed by others. Crowe isn't some exception or special case for this... not sure why it needs to be mentioned explicitly as if "they killed off the only female Glaive" is somehow relevant when they killed ALL OF THEM.
Well said.

Also, I forgot to mention Regis' death. It was so brutal and reminded me in some ways of Aeriths' death in FFVII, with Luna and Nyx looking on helpless behind the wall Regis made, similar to Cloud watching on while Aerith was trapped in The Lost City.

I hope that Noctis and Gladio will be able to retrieve Regis' and Clarus' body to give them a proper send off in the game.
 
Likes: LeonBlade
Sep 1, 2016
64
91
29
Finally saw the movie today and really enjoyed it despite some issues. No movie is ever perfect and for a company that specializes in making video games, I think SE did a pretty damn good job.

IMPRESSIONS:
  • CGI and animation is breathtakingly beautiful. The amount of detail is absolutely astounding from the clothes to the wrinkles on the face - even small things like the movement of the adam’s apple was a nice touch. And might I add that Tenebrae is gorgeous. Luna’s palace is so intricately detailed; even the inside of the door has a mother-of-pearl like pattern.
  • Editing choices were a bit strange most noticeably in the beginning. Did we really need 2 fade to black shots when the injured Libertus gets placed into the truck? But I did like the transition when Crowe leaves in the Speedy Chocobo van and it changes over to the airship entering Tenebrae.
  • Voice acting was great and the voices suited everyone - the actors really put in their emotion to bring their characters to life. Odd one out was Libertus though - he sounded a bit “overacted”. Maybe he’s supposed to sound gruff, but anyway, I got used to him.
  • Lip syncing was ok, but sometimes the mouth and facial movements didn’t quite match the voice or emotion. Overall, nothing unforgivable.
  • Fight scenes were amazing. Something like that can’t be pulled off in a live-action film. I got a bit lost during the Ultros fight as I couldn’t figure out which direction Ultros was heading and the only indication of up or down was when the characters were falling. Also got a bit lost trying to find Nyx and Glauca in the stone statue fight, but who cares, it was so freakin’ epic with all the statues warping!
  • Music was lovely; most notable tracks were the emotional prologue theme, Somnus and the main theme. I also heard the main FF theme when Luna’s escort argued with the gate keeper.
CHARACTERS:
  • Nyx was a cool, manly character. A pure badass with likeable personality - duty-bound, but with a slight touch of arrogance. Hearing his sister scream in his head at strange times felt a bit out of place though. I suppose it was an attempt to give him some backstory, but due to time, it wasn’t fully explored. I’m sure we’ll hear more about him in the game since Luna will have to explain how she escaped that destruction.
  • Libertus had some nice development despite little screen time. Fighting off Glauca on top of a car with a broken leg deserves some badass points. I have a feeling he and the rebellion will play a role near the end of the game. On a side note, I didn’t quite understand the point of that rebellion leader - his mutterings didn’t make sense to me when he died…
  • Crowe was like one of the guys and deserved better than a cruel death (the markings around her eyes reminded me of the statues from the Versus XIII trailer).
  • Pelna seemed like a good guy, but then that tentacle appeared around the corner…
  • Luche the douche - you deserved what you got…
  • Drautos was utterly terrifying as Glauca. Literally a back-stabbing bastard! I’d like to learn more about his motivations. He actually tried to kill Ravus to stop him from wearing the ring, which makes me wonder what he’s truly after. He was an unstoppable force in the movie and I don’t believe this is the end of the King/Queen slayer.
  • Clarus put up a better fight than the other royal guards, but damn, what a way to die…
  • Regis was a lovely character who desperately did everything he could for his son. He harboured so much guilt over abandoning Luna and I could feel his pain. She was like a daughter to him. I sobbed terribly when he let go of Luna’s hand and wished for her and Noctis to live happily. He put up a good fight against Glauca and I sobbed even more when he died. Luna reuniting with Regis after 12 years only for her to see the life disappear from his eyes was heartbreaking. I can’t wait to see more of him in flashbacks in the game.
  • Iedolas is such a sly, old man. It was almost fun to see his patronizing exchanges with Regis.
  • Ardyn is so much fun to watch because you don’t know what he’s up to. He’s one of those unpredictable characters you just can’t quite figure out.
  • Ravus is a rather unlikeable character. I felt sorry when his mother was killed before his eyes, but then he grew up to be an idiot with a warped sense of reality. You could sense the tension between him and Luna. There doesn’t seem to be any love lost between them because Luna didn’t seem to bat an eyelid when he lay on the ground screaming in pain. The movie was holding back on his character and the other antagonists - I expect them to be fully fleshed out in the game so we can have a better understanding of their motivations.
I’ve saved the best for last. I have a quite a lot to say about her so please bear with me.
  • Luna is more complex than she appears to be. A lot of people have criticized her portrayal in the movie continually calling her a damsel in distress. I disagree completely. Yes, she needed to be rescued once or twice, but when you have no armor, weapons or magic, what can you possibly do against Glauca or the terrifying Ultros? She was competent enough to run, jump, climb and pull herself up. She assisted in throwing that tracker into the airship thus destroying it and drives the car on 2 occasions. And she was even willing to risk her own life to put the ring on when they were all cornered by Glauca - that takes flippin’ balls.
She may not be a physically, strong fighter, but she possesses an impressive mental fortitude and intelligence which she uses to manipulate others or the situation. For example, it seemed reckless for her to jump out of the airship, but I believe she was forcing Nyx’s hand because he refused to take her back to Regis. She manipulated Luche into wearing the ring knowing full well he would burn to a crisp after seeing it happen to her own brother. She even convinces Libertus to leave her by sugar-coating her reason. I think it’s not because he’s a “great hero”, but because he’s a fugitive and his broken leg would also slow her down.

Luna displays a maturity that few heroines possess. She is not the screaming, flailing, girly girl. She is brave, independent, knows who she is and what she wants and is not afraid to take matters into her own hands. She knows her own strengths and weaknesses, but will not let a disadvantaged position cower her in fear. She is my favourite character so far and I can’t wait to see her story in the game. SE is definitely holding back on her character as well - I’m sure she’ll surprise us even more.​

CONCLUSION:

Overall, I enjoyed the movie and felt that it succeeded in setting the scene for the game. Themes like betrayal and sacrifice play a huge role in the movie and will most certainly carry over into the game. The tagline “Everything for the future king” wasn’t kidding. Insomnia was obliterated; fathers and good soldiers sacrificed themselves to hold the enemy off and Luna went through hell to get the ring out. The movie has really made me look forward to the game when Noctis and Luna reunite and he sets out to reclaim his throne!
 
Jul 16, 2015
482
356
Do you guys think the goddess that Luna was praying to in the movie will be important to the story of FFXV?. She was looking to the moon while praying which makes me think it will play a part in the game as well. Her name is Luna after all. I wonder if we will go to the moon in the game. They seem to put a lot of emphasis on it in artwork and in the game itself.
 

DrBretto

Warrior of Light
Mar 18, 2016
1,606
1,436
36
Do you guys think the goddess that Luna was praying to in the movie will be important to the story of FFXV?. She was looking to the moon while praying which makes me think it will play a part in the game as well. Her name is Luna after all. I wonder if we will go to the moon in the game. They seem to put a lot of emphasis on it in artwork and in the game itself.
This whole time people were afraid that you'd need to watch the movie to get the game, and it turns out we'll need to play the game to get the movie.
 

SonOfEtro

White SeeD
May 2, 2016
807
669
Do you guys think the goddess that Luna was praying to in the movie will be important to the story of FFXV?. She was looking to the moon while praying which makes me think it will play a part in the game as well. Her name is Luna after all. I wonder if we will go to the moon in the game. They seem to put a lot of emphasis on it in artwork and in the game itself.
I think she's deeply connected with the mysterious Goddess in the game's logo, who is "the most important Goddess" in XV's world. Since we know there are multiple male deities somewhere and a single female goddess, I wouldn't be surprised if the moon is connected to the Goddess. Plus (this is just my own opinion), I don't think the Goddess will be evil, but an unseen benevolent figure in opposition to the begins which created the Crystal (traditionally seen by Lucis' people as gods).
 

Somber

AVALANCHE Warrior
Nov 22, 2013
271
223
The tracklist for Kingsglaive is finally released now. I'll highlight the ones which Yoko Shimomura scored or arranged. I may be biased but I think her scores are way better than John R. Graham's.

01 Prologue
02 Under Siege
03 Diamond Weapon
04 To the Rescue
05 Sombre Return
06 The Chancellor
07 A Modest Proposal
08 Far from Home
09 Calling for Rain
10 The Choice
11 Ill Tidings
12 Haunted
13 FINAL FANTASY Main Theme (KINGSGLAIVE Version)
14 LUNA

15 In the Line of Duty
16 Memories
17 Somnus (Instrumental Version)

18 Simmering Unrest
19 Missing Princess
20 Suit Up. Glaives
21 Glaive Infiltration
22 Treaty Signing

01 Treachery
02 Before the Throne
03 The Ring of the Lucii
04 Our Hope Goes with You
05 The General and the King
06 No Turning Back
07 Doubt
08 Despair
09 The General's Ambition
10 Kings of Lucis
11 Battle for the Crown City

12 Little Sister
13 Headlong
14 At Struggle's End
15 A Promise to Keep
16 NYX
17 APOCALYPSIS NOCTIS
 
Likes: Lulcielid
Sep 1, 2016
64
91
29
Ah no wonder, there were some tracks in the movie that really stood out for me. The epicness, the emotion - makes sense Shimomura was the one the one behind them. I'm biased as well - she's a legend.
 
Sep 1, 2016
64
91
29
After doing a Kingsglaive rewatch I noticed that Drautos armor can somehow withstand the hit from one the Knights sword without breaking o_O
His armor also absorbed Libertus' knife during the car chase. When Nyx burned him, his armor slowly melted to reveal the knife so Nyx could warp to it. Also really interested to know what kind of properties that armor has and where he got it.
 
Jul 16, 2015
482
356
His armor also absorbed Libertus' knife during the car chase. When Nyx burned him, his armor slowly melted to reveal the knife so Nyx could warp to it. Also really interested to know what kind of properties that armor has and where he got it.
It's made of Mithril mined from Niflheim just you wait and see.
 

SonOfEtro

White SeeD
May 2, 2016
807
669
His armor also absorbed Libertus' knife during the car chase. When Nyx burned him, his armor slowly melted to reveal the knife so Nyx could warp to it. Also really interested to know what kind of properties that armor has and where he got it.
Crazy idea. It might be a fusion of normal armor and what went to make the Daemon monsters. With perhaps a little forbidden magic in the mix. Wouldn't be at all surprised if Ardyn was the one who prompted its creation.
 

LeonBlade

Administrator
Administrator
Moderator
Site Staff
Oct 25, 2013
2,025
1,771
27
Blossvale, New York
Just wanted to ask this in here since I got into a discussion on Nova Crystallis where someone said Glauca is dead. Does anyone really think he died at the end of Kingsglaive? Personally, I don't think he died at all. We never see him die, and I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't come back as a boss in the game. I mean, why show him at the start of the game (Drautos) if that's his only appearance? So... you make a model for him in game only to use him once?

I'd like to hear what people have to say. If you'd like to see the comments on NC, they're here: http://www.novacrystallis.com/2016/...ng-fishing-in-weekly-jump/#comment-2884450877