Final Fantasy XV - General News Thread

[APZonerunner]

The thing that worries me about the car comments more than anything is an increasing precedent for them saying things (IE, you can drive the car anywhere!) and then saying the opposite later (The car is only available on the road, sorry.)

Like, the next obvious step is: The car isn't driveable in the demo, but will be in the full version. It's not finished >> The car is driven by the AI, because it wouldn't work right with players driving it.

It's a worrying precedent in general.

 

[LeonBlade]

The thing that worries me about the car comments more than anything is an increasing precedent for them saying things (IE, you can drive the car anywhere!) and then saying the opposite later (The car is only available on the road, sorry.)

Like, the next obvious step is: The car isn't driveable in the demo, but will be in the full version. It's not finished >> The car is driven by the AI, because it wouldn't work right with players driving it.

It's a worrying precedent in general.

The thing is here his statement is more of emphasis on "can't drive in the woods or mountains" over "can't drive off road". I never planned on driving up the mountains.

 

[Noctis Strife]

The thing is here his statement is more of emphasis on "can't drive in the woods or mountains" over "can't drive off road". I never planned on driving up the mountains.

Same, I always wanted to drive town to town, region to region then walk the rest of the way so I can fight and do side stuff :3

 

[yeah_93]

The thing that worries me about the car comments more than anything is an increasing precedent for them saying things (IE, you can drive the car anywhere!) and then saying the opposite later (The car is only available on the road, sorry.)

Like, the next obvious step is: The car isn't driveable in the demo, but will be in the full version. It's not finished >> The car is driven by the AI, because it wouldn't work right with players driving it.

It's a worrying precedent in general.

That's exactly why I'm worried about it. I wonder how many other things will they cut.

 

[LeonBlade]

That's exactly why I'm worried about it. I wonder how many other things will they cut.

Wait wait wait, what's even being cut here? You guys are jumping to conclusions. The car being finished for the demo is still under debate as it's pretty simple to implement a car... I honestly believe Tabata when he says that they didn't want to focus on it. Why the car out of all things would he lie about?

 

[Infest]

Wait wait wait, what's even being cut here? You guys are jumping to conclusions. The car being finished for the demo is still under debate as it's pretty simple to implement a car... I honestly believe Tabata when he says that they didn't want to focus on it. Why the car out of all things would he lie about?

I was just starting to reply the same but you beat me. xD

 

[Lulcielid]

Things that have been cut and are a fact:

1. Switching characters
2. ERROR 404 NOT FOUND.

 

[Noctis Strife]

Things that have been cut and are a fact:

1. Switching characters
2. ERROR 404 NOT FOUND.

I wish I could like this more than once.

 

[APZonerunner]

With the history the game has had, I don't think it's unfair to be concerned about that stuff, honestly. It's not negativity, just watching it and thinking 'ooer' basically. I think it's fair given what's happened.

It's pretty obvious the car has been a struggle - it doesn't look the greatest in the trailers (compared to other games, there's a distinct lack of solid suspension modelling and the like), and it's obviously been a bit of a struggle. That's absolutely cool. I get it; it's a new thing for them to do. There were higher hopes for the car, they've pulled back on it. This I absolutely know. It's not a bad thing, one just hopes that doesn't become a fuller precedent; there's been an awful lot of "this is planned, but it's not in the demo" talk, and that's a little bit scary - magic being absent, for example. But this is a 2016 game, too, almost certainly, and I get that.

 

[Noctis Strife]

So before this discussion continues are we mostly on the same page this will probably be a 2016 game? Because if it is I see both sides to both arguments. One hand says that a long time has been, in Zonerunners words "there's been an awful lot of "this is planned, but it's not in the demo" talk". I agree, and that scares me a bit too I'll admit. But on the other hand we have the understandable statement of well, the car really is a new concept(it was shown first at the TGS '14 trailer yeah?), so the idea of keeping it out of the demo makes sense.

Also at the same time I don't think it was ever said that the car WOULD go off road. All I remember being official is that the car is mainly driven by Ignis, but the player can take control and have our lovable Prince Noct drive it. Either way, I never saw the car in action and thought this was going to happen either....(this being the picture from GTA)

 

[Infest]

There were higher hopes for the car, they've pulled back on it.

What exactly do you mean by that?

 

[LeonBlade]

What exactly do you mean by that?

Yeah, I honestly don't know either. The car was always supposed to be a means of transportation... it hasn't changed. You don't drive cars in real life off roads usually unless you have a car suited for it. Why would anyone think that the car we've seen time and time again for almost a decade now in Versus XIII and now in XV would be going up mountains and through forests...? Let's drive the car in the cave guys, we won't have to deal with any of those nasties in there, just roll up the windows and put the top on.

 

[yeah_93]

Yeah, I honestly don't know either. The car was always supposed to be a means of transportation... it hasn't changed. You don't drive cars in real life off roads usually unless you have a car suited for it. Why would anyone think that the car we've seen time and time again for almost a decade now in Versus XIII and now in XV would be going up mountains and through forests...? Let's drive the car in the cave guys, we won't have to deal with any of those nasties in there, just roll up the windows and put the top on.

Perhaps they should ditch that expensive-looking Audi-like car for a 4x4 truck.

 

[llazy77]

http://www.gamepur.com/news/18117-f...en-world-narrower-and-less-freedom-elder.html
"The world of Final Fantasy will be open, but still true to the spirit of the series and therefore more restricted." Said Hajime Tabata.

"We're trying to create a game that is like to fans of Final Fantasy, than by Skyrim, we learned from successful Western, but we try to be original."

Dont know if this posted before or not

 

[LeonBlade]

Perhaps they should ditch that expensive-looking Audi-like car for a 4x4 truck.

lol.

This is why I want airships in the game... a car can't just go anywhere like an airship can. Some people don't get this, like the whole discussion about "is an airship needed in FFXV"... yeah I think so. We've all seen what resembles the world map, and that thing has loads of mountains, it would take a long time to travel by car on the roads. Not even a car would take you up those mountains, so I'm still holding out on the airships, hopefully they can make it happen.

 

[Infest]

lol.

This is why I want airships in the game... a car can't just go anywhere like an airship can. Some people don't get this, like the whole discussion about "is an airship needed in FFXV"... yeah I think so. We've all seen what resembles the world map, and that thing has loads of mountains, it would take a long time to travel by car on the roads. Not even a car would take you up those mountains, so I'm still holding out on the airships, hopefully they can make it happen.

I don't think we should worry about airships in the game, I'm sure they're in ( at least as a fast travel option). The question is only if we can manually fly them.

 

[LeonBlade]

I don't think we should worry about airships in the game, I'm sure they're in ( at least as a fast travel option). The question is only if we can manually fly them.

Well, yeah, I want to fly them manually though is what I meant to say sorry.

 

[Lulcielid]

Square would have to work hard with the airship, particually with the collision system (if we can use them manually)

 

[Infest]

Square would have to work hard with the airship, particually with the collision system (if we can use them manually)

Yeah that's probably one of the major problems.

 

[Lucina]

Chocobos let you travel fast and unharmed, wind drakes take you over rivers but never mountains, submarines take you underwater, and airships let you travel anywhere on the surface.

I would be fine if this is the design mentality they're going for when it comes to travel options. If the car is limited as a design choice, I have no qualms.